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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 21 May 2009 15:40 - 4303 of 21973

a good day for banking some profits

managed to get away 50% od BRR at pretty much today's top for a small profit
banked juicy profit on 50% TLW as sp now touching all time high, so pull back much more likely than strong progress
banked further juicy profit on 40% HOIL, as was pretty o'weight there

war chest now has some decent funds for reinvesting in due course

amardev - 21 May 2009 16:08 - 4304 of 21973

Well Done Cynic ............... your patience deserves every success.

Regards
Amar

cynic - 21 May 2009 17:45 - 4305 of 21973

patient i am not .... on the other hand, i sometimes remember my own adage that a profit ain't a profit until it's banked

cynic - 21 May 2009 21:06 - 4306 of 21973

considering the general beastliness, could have had a much worse day .... even managed to make 100 on Dow long, which at least will pay the milk and paper bills

Toya - 21 May 2009 21:58 - 4307 of 21973

Crumbs Cynic - how much milk and paper do you consume in a week?

marni - 21 May 2009 22:02 - 4308 of 21973

do you claim milk and papers as expenses? lol

Toya - 21 May 2009 22:30 - 4309 of 21973

No - it's only MPs who do that!

marni - 22 May 2009 00:21 - 4310 of 21973

i wish someone would pay my sky tv subscription as i found out i'm paying for a mr. g.brown sky tv. no wonder he is a fat git sitting watching tv ALL day. him and that bulemic prescott, lol and tinutus jack straw and blind blunkett.......what a country of leaders we are!

cynic - 22 May 2009 07:18 - 4311 of 21973

definitely tax allowable trading expenses ..... milk is for soothing the burnt fingers, and the papers are used for other extremities when things go from bad to worse!

HARRYCAT - 27 May 2009 16:25 - 4312 of 21973

Sideways movement for the FTSE & DOW during may, with no sign yet of a downwards trend. Living in hope!

HARRYCAT - 01 Jun 2009 12:07 - 4313 of 21973

Oil tipped by OPEC to reach $75 pb, house builders & miners keeping the stock market bouyant, Russian investors piling in to the Moscow exchange, house prices up during the last month & fund managers are increasing their share holdings. (All FT headlines).
DOW futures currently +136 & the froth on the markets looks likely to continue for the time being. Those still sitting on cash must be looking longingly at the current rally.

cynic - 01 Jun 2009 12:11 - 4314 of 21973

some of us are looking at the potential frothiness of the market and taking some money off the table

cynic - 01 Jun 2009 21:05 - 4315 of 21973

and having looked at the later trading in NY, my bet (but not my money!) is that there will be a sharp pull-back tomorrow ...... all i have done is reduce my general exposure a bit

HARRYCAT - 01 Jun 2009 21:32 - 4316 of 21973

Nevertheless, the markets are buzzing at present & I am glad I am in rather than just watching. Bound to be a correction soon, but not sure if it will be tomorrow.

HARRYCAT - 04 Jun 2009 17:55 - 4317 of 21973

As RIO is a FTSE100 constituent, I reckon it may drag the miners & market down on friday with it's news of a probable, unexpected rights issue.

EDIT: Well I called that totally wrong. Both BLT & RIO up 10% already today (5th).

jkd - 17 Jun 2009 18:35 - 4318 of 21973

it's been very quiet on here recently. not surprising since ftse has been going sideways for what seems so long, since 7th may in a circa 200 point range. is it about to break out? or has it already done so today? i'm not sure what to make of this, traditional technicals suggest that such sideways movements usually break out in the direction of the move into it, in this case that would be upwards. if it breaks upwards it is suggested it will move at the very least the width of the sideways congestion band being circa 200 points. above the upper band, and most probably as much as the initial move up into the original lower band which is often much greater.
assuming upper band level to be say 4520 this would suggest a minimum targeted price of 4720 sh.and maybe more.
we are now approaching the 2nd quarter end where we often see lows and highs made that continue and hold into the next quarter.
if we are bullish we might want to see some lower prices over next few days and look to buy into the lows with some tight stop losses available to us.
if we are bearish we might like to do the same although those same tight stop losses may not be available to us.although it may be to some, depending on the time scale being used.
i'm still nett long but still long term bearish, plenty of stocks such as miners look very overbought based on rsi etc.
the last couple of days or so have proven to me once again how important it is to have a selection of both longs and shorts in my trading portfolio.
any views anyone? have we broken to the downside? or will we recover and continue up?
regards
jkd

halifax - 17 Jun 2009 18:40 - 4319 of 21973

Any good news due? Looks like down before up.

jkd - 17 Jun 2009 19:15 - 4320 of 21973

h
i agree with you about lack of good news. i agree with you about down before up also , thats why i just wonder, well, maybe sometimes logic doesnt apply to the market.
we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
regards and good luck
jkd

jkd - 19 Jun 2009 15:45 - 4321 of 21973

currently running a small short on ftse from 4360sh level just to help hedge against my longs, many of which are sitting on or near to support levels so reluctant to sell them at moment. also some of my individual shorts are also in the money but may rally or may not so have tightened all stops. what a web.
regards
jkd

Falcothou - 19 Jun 2009 20:01 - 4322 of 21973

It seems to me that the ftse has underperformed other indices of late with its defensive qualities(e.g. dax 720 point premium of late, it has lots of cyclicals). Perhaps much of the rally has been related to the stimulus packages worldwide and low interest rates... causing the libor the lifeblood of leverage to drop. Seems to be a tussle between recovery+hyperinflation, vs. post stimulus depression and deflation. The bond market spreads seem to be widening which I understand will lead to more expensive mortgages which will further pressure the indebted consumer, so some are recommending buying fixed rate mortgages now before they spike. I think volatility might be around the corner again, remember those crazy 1000 point dow moves in a matter of hours!
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