Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

By Hannah Furness, arts correspondent

1:35PM BST 06 Jul 2014

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Britain is “over-governed”, with so many layers of councils and bureaucracy that people struggle to understand how politics works, the MP Liam Fox has said.


Dr Fox, the Conservative MP and former Defence Secretary, said he believed there should be a “reduction” in levels of government.


Arguing the number of councillors and politicians made government “confusing”, he added members of the public now find it difficult to determine “which bits matter”.


Speaking at the Telegraph Ways With Words book festival in Dartington, Devon, he also called for schools to return to teaching every pupil how government works, with lessons on their own civic responsibility.


Dr Fox, who has written a book about the challenges of modern globalisation, added the 21st century saw an “information gap”, as a younger generation eschew traditional television news for “made-to-measure” entertainment.


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When asked about the problem of engaging voters, he told an audience: “In politics, we’re so over-governed - there are so many layers of government – that I think a lot of people find it confusing which bits matter and which don’t matter.

“You’ve got parish councils, town councils, district councils, county councils, Westminster, Europe. Goodness me, how many politicians do you need to govern a country of 60 million people?

“I think we actually do need a slight reduction in the levels of government so people know which bits do matter.”

Dr Fox, who resigned from cabinet in 2011 and returned to the backbench, added: “People don’t really understand how government works and it is a failure in our education system.

“There is an obligation to teach people what used to be called civics, to say this is how the country actually works; this is what your responsibilities as well as your rights are.

“This is something we should be seriously thinking about.”

Saying there was a “disconnect” with voters, he compared the current political awareness with that of his childhood, where most people watched television news on one of three channels.

“Nowadays we, particularly young people, have a very made-to-measure lifestyle,” he said.

“You can live your whole life without any interaction with current affairs whatsoever, and it leaves a big information gap.”

They'll have to put it on an app if they want the kids to even begin to understand.

Educashun is the key, Gove looks like he is trying to do something about the appalling standards that pass for teaching these days, but I'm not sure how far he will get against the system.

Yes the tories have done well in their attempts to reform society in their own image.

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I wonder who is hiding what and where?

immigration is destroying the nhs fact the scum coming to the uk are filling the hospitals time to refuse them help send them home , they are only coming for fre benefits .

Hays question......

Who or What is the United and Cecil club ??????????????????????????


R U a member of the Club or group?

who finances it?

how is the pot disposed of?

what are the intentions of the club?

how is the club listed?

is the tory party "open and honest" and not attempting to corrupt the intentions of the "democratic" system?

Hays still 10 months to go and Labour opening a bigger gap at the top.........

Just out........

electionista @electionista · 34minutes ago
UK - Populus poll:

LAB 38%
CON 31%
UKIP 14%
LDEM 9%


UK - Opinium/Observer poll:

LAB 35%
CON 29%
UKIP 18%
LDEM 7%
GRN 5%

Must be this peado issue that the Tories are linked with.

Full statement from Leon Brittan on rape allegation and Geoffrey Dickens

WHO WERE the relevant home office officials???????????????????

The United and Cecil club operates under the same rules working men's clubs and similar that give political donations.

Come on Hays you know more than that or are YOU COVERING UP????.

There is nothing complicated about it. There are lunch clubs and dinner clubs. I was invited to join one a few years ago that meets at the Commons one lunch a month and people discuss politics and network for business. The donations are limited to around £7,500 and the donor has to be on the electoral roll. Labour has similar arrangements although there are fewer business people willing to donate to them. Their peak was in the days when Lord Sainsbury gave millions to Labour.

gold . for the first time in my life I was asked who I was going to vote for .
nd answered their question UKIP ASKED WHO I VOTE FOR LAST TIME TORY
ASKED WHY I WAS NOT VOTING CONSERVATIVE AT THE NEXT ELECTION ANSWERED BECAUSE THEY ARE A PARTY OF LIARS .

Are you sure or are you playing silly devils here??.

Donations limited to £7,500.............................................'you cant be serious'.

TANKER i voted for UKIP at the local and EC elections but it was a tactical vote against the Bullingdon boys.

I will be voting labour at the GE..... JUST to get rid of this present creepy arrogant lying lot.

they also asked why was I voting UKIP answer the same as ever one I talk to we
want out of the EU and want migrants out of our country .
the march of the fade up tax payers have had enough of the scum coming to the uk .

she said that is what most are saying mori poll

Hays,

From a stable in the home counties own by wealthy tories who didn't get a plate at the recent "dinner".

Is it used for filtering money and donation to certain party constituency?

Are the members buying favours,future or present from the tory leadership?

What are the sizes of the donation?

Is Iver the right village to give donations to?

Nice to have money for fags.