Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

gf
Your left leanings should make you abandon UKIP. They have announced their policy of abolition shiny inheritance tax. That means that the £3.5bn that it raises will have to come from everybody.of course that will also be difficult due to UKIP's flat tax rate policy. As you can see they aren't too good at costing these things out. Lucky that they will never be able to enct any policies. They could promise anything.

conservative donors and tory press to launch a hate campaign on UKP more corruption ahead . going to us dirty tricks to undermind ukip it will back fire
what about these TORY MPs who we can name soon on criminal grounds

hays ISRAEL A NATION OF BRAVE PEOPLE PALESTIANS A NATION OF COWARDS HIDING BEHIND BABIES AND OLD WOMEN FIREING ROCKETS FROM SHCOOL GROUNDS ABOUT SUMS THE SCUM UP TERRORISTS

Mr T - you may not have your numbers right ...... I know from my tenant(s) that housing benefits are far from generous and get whittled away once you start working 16 hours a week (I think)

He is right Cynic, I thought he was just on about PAYE but looking at his figures given a penny or two hes right on the button and Ive costed it for a 2 by 2 family.

he said.................

TANKER - 08 Jul 2014 14:34 - 43360 of 43365

gold those that earn around £245 pay 538 tax then claim back over 1100 for child then council tax then tax credits they get free services .

they then get council tax benefit costing the uk £7600 a year.......................ENDS

Now you cost it out Cyners and hes derd right. Just check it.

Right settling down for the World Cup.

in that case I believe you both
is that with neither parent working?

I thought Georgie Boy had solved the economic problems:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/28209578

8 July 2014 Last updated at 11:28


Manufacturing output in the UK recorded a surprise fall of 1.3% in May, the biggest decline since January 2013.

The figure from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) was much weaker than economists' forecasts of an increase of 0.4%.

Manufacturing data and surveys so far this year have indicated that the sector is growing robustly.

The wider measure of industrial output also fell in May, the ONS figures showed, dropping by 0.7%.

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Compared with a year earlier, manufacturing output was up 3.7% in May, down from April's increase of 4.3%, while annual growth in industrial output slowed to 2.3% from 2.9%.

Fiddled figures previously Fred, in attempt to boost Torries at the LA elections.

I dont believe for one minute that the ONS is an independant organisation and the same with the BoE, Giddeon as them wrapped around his little finger.

Wouldnt mind but the ONS work from the same building Nos 11 Downing street and we all know who lives there.

Haystack questioned yesterday about the UNITED and CECIL CLUB said.......

1. Haystack - 07 Jul 2014 11:02 - 43274 of 43370

The United and Cecil club operates under the same rules working men's clubs and similar that give political donations.

2. Haystack - 07 Jul 2014 11:27 - 43276 of 43370

There is nothing complicated about it. There are lunch clubs and dinner clubs. I was invited to join one a few years ago that meets at the Commons one lunch a month and people discuss politics and network for business. The donations are limited to around £7,500 and the donor has to be on the electoral roll.

NOW HERES THE REAL TRUTH

Low profile United & Cecil Club funnels cash to Conservative must-win marginals

An organisation registered at a stables in the Home Counties, with a former tobacco lobbyist for an honorary secretary, is a key weapon in the Conservative Party’s battle to win the next election.

The United & Cecil Club is playing an increasingly crucial role in funding election bids in the most tightly contested constituencies. The club has been used to raise funds for the Conservatives for years and these funds are now being deployed strategically as the party targets key marginals ahead of the 2015 election.

Since the last election, the organisation has given £282,250 to Conservative candidates – nearly double the amount it has given to Conservative central campaign headquarters. In the first quarter of this year alone, the U&C club has given almost as much to candidates as it did in the whole of last year.

In disclosures made and published by the Electoral Commission the U&C club is registered at an an address in Iver, a village in Buckinghamshire. However, in the parliamentary register, the U&C lists its address as a riding school in Berkshire.

The stables are run by Tim Lord. Lord, a former chief executive of the Tobacco Manufacturers Association, confirmed to the Bureau that he is honorary secretary of the U&C club.

When asked to supply further details about the U&C club, Lord declined to elaborate. “We are a club, we have our objective and we comply with the law,” he said.

Christopher Fenwick, a member of the wealthy retail family which has an estimated fortune of £500m, was until recently a former deputy chairman of the organisation, Lord confirmed.

Fenwick hosted a table at last ​week’s Conservative fundraiser at the Hurlingham club, which was focused on the 40 seats to hold and the 40 seats to gain. Last year he sponsored two tables where the table plan showed his guests included U&C chairman, Brooks Newmark MP and Anne-Marie Trev​elyn, a Tory hopeful who is bidding to win the Lib Dem marginal seat of Berwick-​up​on-Tweed.

And what's wrong with that.

Read it again.......it stinks.

You made them out to be a small lunch and diner club, nothing could be further from the truth.

TORY SLEAZE and yet your lot criticise union donations.

Laffing my ass off.

Deception at its worst.

Hays made out.....The donations are limited to around £7,500

but we see the truth here.......... Since the last election, the organisation has given £282,250 to Conservative candidates – nearly double the amount it has given to Conservative central campaign headquarters. In the first quarter of this year alone, the U&C club has given almost as much to candidates as it did in the whole of last year.

Right point made watching the world cup.

They are limited to £7,500 per person per year. Over that amount they have to detail who gave the money.

WHAT........ your in denial again Hays........all this money they have ploughed into marginals as gone un- accounted for. Plus they are covering up the identity of their organisation and members.

Wait while tomorrow.

You should see what I have in store for you cheating tories.

oh for goodness sake .... can't you guys give the cracked record a break!

meanwhile, I have just seen the footie score ...... as you know, I avoid the game like the plague, but 5-0 at HT is just preposterous

No Im fed up of Tories pointing the finger at labour over Union funding.

Its no where near as corrupt as the Tory system.

You should see what I have to post tomorrow.

Cynic wrong thread for footy.

ps, hope your enjoying your holiday.

They are allowed to have de the identity of diners up to £7,500. The rules apply to all such groups. If a working men's club collects money then they do not have fist all donors.

yes thanks though it's been strange indeed ..... fun to tell, but too long to write :-)