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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 09 Jul 2014 10:19 - 43390 of 81564

migrants are costing the nhs over 6 billion ever year . read about the problems they go to hospital with .migrants are going to destroy the nhs . you may take no notice of the down fall of the nhs now but not when you need it and its not their

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 10:31 - 43391 of 81564

Labour will look after the NHS the Tories will privatise it and destroy it.

Haystack - 09 Jul 2014 10:35 - 43392 of 81564

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 10:39 - 43393 of 81564

Now that Hays is here back to Sleezy tory funding......

: Interactive – Who sat with whom at the Conservative Summer Party

The Tories have been criticised in the past for taking money from organisations which lack clarity about the identity of their donors. The Midlands Industrial Council, an organisation based in a small Lincolnshire village, was for years used to channel money to the party from wealthy businessmen who wanted to keep their donations private.

“The Tories have learned the language of modern government,” said Tamasin Cave of Spinwatch who leads the Alliance for Lobbying Transparency coalition. “They talk about transparency and fairness but the reality is they are continuing with an antiquated way of doing things, like secret donor clubs.”

A Tory spokesman said: “All donations to the Conservative party are properly and transparently declared to the Electoral Commission, published by them, and comply fully with Electoral Commission rules.”

Analysis by the Bureau reveals that hundreds of thousands of pounds have already been donated to Tory candidates ahead of next year’s election, one that polsters suggest may produce the tightest result in living memory.

TANKER - 09 Jul 2014 10:39 - 43394 of 81564

hamas firing rockets from hospitals and schools .they do not give a toss about the people in gaza the people of gaza should start to kill them the are not their friends
just terrorists making millions in their own bank accounts . ISRAEL A NATION OF GREAT PEOPLE .

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 10:44 - 43395 of 81564

TORY PARTY FUNDS IN THE 20 MOST MARGINAL SEATS

With Labour having to rely largely on the unions for funding, the Bureau’s analysis shows that leading Tory hopefuls are powering ahead in the sums raised.

Political funding and the way this money is raised has been thrown into sharp relief following the Tories’ annual fundraising dinner, held last week at the exclusive Hurlingham Club in south west London.

The event proved a huge money-spinner with oligarchs, Middle Eastern businessmen and City financiers vying to bid huge sums at an auction that raised, according to those there, £500,000 for David Cameron’s party.

At this year’s dinner a Russian banker – the wife of a former Kremlin deputy finance minister - paid £160,000 to play tennis with David Cameron and Boris Johnson. A bottle of champagne signed by Margaret Thatcher went for £45,000 with a pot of honey fetching £20,000.

ALL UNDECLARED FUNDING AND WHAT DID IT BUY THEM?????????????????


SLEAZE SLEAZE SLEAZE SLEAZE SLEAZE SLEAZE.

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 11:47 - 43396 of 81564

Russian banker pays £160,000 to play tennis with David Cameron and Boris Johnson

Bids were made using ‘spotters’ who patrolled the event carrying wands. When a bid was placed a wand was illuminated.

The total sum raised from this year’s event is currently unknown. But last year’s fundraiser, attended by 449 guests who sat at tables costing up to £12,000 each, ​saw a £1.1m spike in donations in the week following the event​, according to filings registered with the Electoral Commission and analysed by the Bureau.

Much of this money is finding its way to the marginal seats which have hitherto benefited from former Tory party treasurer Lord Ashcroft, who has given the party millions of pounds down the years, but has now turned off the tap, according to his spokesman.

The Bureau’s analysis shows that, since the last election, some £321,182 has gone to Tory candidates contesting the 20 most marginal seats in Britain – compared with just £74,545 to their Labour rivals.

The Lib Dems have spent more than £183,000 across the same 20 seats – their figures are skewed by £84,000 ploughed into fighting Dorset Mid and Poole North.

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 12:15 - 43397 of 81564

Camoron telling porkies again at PMqs over the health service, all hes done is repeat last weeks lies and he get called to order YET AGAIN.

When are Tory Rank and File going to stop him from telling lies ALL THE TIME.

jimmy b - 09 Jul 2014 12:20 - 43398 of 81564

Cricky i'd pay to play tennis with Djokovic or Federer ,Cameron and Johnson , i dont think so .

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 12:24 - 43399 of 81564

Esther McVey is a compulsive liar who should be kicked out of government

131020dwplies.jpg?w=529&h=304Evil eyes: Esther McVey seems to get a perverse thrill from pretending her government’s policies are helping people; it is more likely they are driving the needy to despair and suicide.

Note to Iain Duncan Smith: It is not a good idea to try to inspire confidence in a £multi-billion “money pit” disaster by wheeling out Esther McVey to lie about it.

The woman dubbed “Fester McVile” by some commentators has accumulated a reputation so bad that the only way she can hide the metaphorical stink from the public is by associating with …Smith himself, in whose stench she seems almost fragrant. But not quite.

This is a woman who has lied to the public that it is impossible to carry out a cumulative assessment of the impact on the sick and disabled of the Coalition’s ‘final solution’ changes to the benefit system.

This is the woman who, in the face of public unrest about the prevalence of zero-hours contracts, announced that Job Centre advisors will now be able to force the unemployed into taking this exploitative work.

She has previously misled Parliament over the loophole in Bedroom Tax legislation that meant the government had removed Housing Benefit from thousands of people who were exempt from the measure – including Stephanie Bottrill, whose suicide has been attributed to the pressure of having to survive on less because of the tax. Asked how many people had been affected by the loophole, McVey played it down by claiming she did not know the answer, while other ministers suggested between 3,000 and 5,000. In fact, from Freedom of Information requests to which just one-third of councils responded, 16,000 cases were revealed.

Mark Hoban stood in for McVey to trot out the lie that independent reviews of the Work Capability Assessment had identified areas of improvement on which the government was acting. In fact, out of 25 recommendations in the Year One review alone, almost two-thirds were not fully and successfully implemented.

In a debate on food banks, McVey’s lies came thick and fast: She accused the previous Labour government of a “whirl of living beyond our means” that “had to come to a stop” without ever pausing to admit that it was Tory-voting bankers who had been living beyond their means, who caused the crash, and who are still living beyond their means today, because her corporatist (thank you, Zac Goldsmith) Conservative government has protected them.

She accused Labour of trying to keep food banks as “its little secret”, forcing Labour’s Jim Cunningham to remind us all that food banks were set up by churches to help refugees who were waiting for their asylum status to be confirmed – not as a support system for British citizens, as they have become under the Coalition’s failed regime.

She said the Coalition government was brought in to “solve the mess that Labour got us in”, which is not true – it was born from a backroom deal between two of the most unscrupulous party leaders of recent times, in order to ensure they and their friends could get their noses into the money trough (oh yes, there’s plenty of money around – but this government is keeping it away from you).

She said the Coalition had got more people into work than ever before – without commenting on the fact that the jobs are part-time, zero-hours, self-employed contracts that benefit the employers but exploit the workers and in fact propel them towards poverty.

She lied to Parliament, claiming that children are three times more likely to be in poverty if they are in a workless household. In fact, according to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, in-work poverty has now outstripped that suffered by those in workless and retired households; children are more likely to be in poverty if their parents have jobs.

She attacked Labour for allowing five million people to be on out-of-work benefits, with two million children in workless households – but under her government the number of households suffering in-work poverty has risen to eight million (by 2008 standards), while workless or retired households in poverty have risen to total 6.3 million.

She claimed that 60,000 people were likely to use a food bank this year – but Labour’s Paul Murphy pointed out that 60,000 people will use food banks this year in Wales alone. The actual figure for the whole of the UK is 500,000.

She said the Coalition’s tax cuts had given people an extra £700 per year, without recognising that the real-terms drop in wages and rise in the cost of living means people will be £1,600 a year worse-off when the next general election takes place, tax cuts included. She said stopping fuel price increases meant families were £300 better-off, which is nonsense. Families cannot become better off because something has not happened; it’s like saying I’m better off because the roof of my house hasn’t fallen in and squashed me.

Her talents won exactly the recognition they deserved when her Wikipedia entry was altered to describe her as “the Assistant Grim Reaper for Disabled People since 2012, second only to Iain Duncan Smith. She was previously a television presenter and businesswoman before deciding to branch out into professional lying and helping disabled people into the grave.”

In her food bank speech, she also said the government had brought in Universal Credit to ensure that three million people become better-off. There’s just one problem with that system – it doesn’t work.

This brings us back to the current issue. Last month, in a written answer to Labour’s Rachel Reeves, McVey claimed that – and let’s have a direct quote so there can be no doubt that these were her words: “The Chief Secretary to the Treasury has approved the [Universal Credit] Strategic Outline Business Case.” That would mean the Treasury was willing to continue funding the disaster.

In fact, civil service boss Bob Kerslake admitted yesterday that the Treasury has not signed off the scheme, which the Major Projects Authority classifies as being at serious risk of failure.

Even for a minister in the Coalition government, this woman has lied far too often. She is a danger to the national interest.

So come on, Cameron.

We know you’re a liar but you refuse to go.

We know …Smith is a liar but you refuse to sack him.

Here’s Esther McVey. Her lies have made her utterly worthless to you. She is a liability.

Haystack - 09 Jul 2014 12:54 - 43400 of 81564

gf
You certainly are a great source of entertainment.

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 13:02 - 43401 of 81564

Hays

you certainly are a great source of amusement.

ps, sobered up yet, your post last night was unintelligible.

Check it, can you remember posting it?.

TANKER - 09 Jul 2014 13:12 - 43402 of 81564

STOP GIVING MONEY TO THE RED CROSS.

they are feeding terrorists so they can use their money for weapons
stop giving aid to Palestine .let them work for food or starve

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 13:53 - 43403 of 81564

Head of paedophile inquiry’s own brother accused of protecting VIP paedophiles
09
Wednesday
Jul 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in hopeless naivety

There has been some criticism of Theresa May’s decision to appoint Lady Butler-Sloss as chair of the VIP paedophile inquiry.

Most of the criticism has centred around the fact Lady Butler-Sloss sits in the House of Lords and may have to criticise her fellow peers in the inquiry.

Personally, I think much more worrying is the little mentioned fact that Butler-Sloss will most certainly have to investigate a close member of her own family.

Her brother is former Tory MP and Attorney General Sir Michael Havers - who also happened to be one of the establishment figures alleged to have argued for the protection of the identities of VIPs accused of child abuse.

But don’t just take my word for it.

Just 4 days ago – before it was announced Butler-Sloss would head the inquiry - the pro-establishment Daily Mail had this to say about Havers:

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But it was also Butler-Sloss’s brother Havers who – as Attorney General under Margaret Thatcher – defended the decision not to prosecute the VIP paedophile Sir Peter Hayman in 1981:

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And in 1983, Havers was accused by the Sun Newspaper of withholding information about a convicted paedophile’s membership of the Paedophile Information Exchange during his trial “to avoid embarrassing security chiefs”:

havers-the-sun-pie1.jpg?w=529&h=666Perhaps Butler-Sloss will have no qualms about investigating her own brother for being part of an establishment cover-up of child abuse by VIPs.

But just in case – perhaps it’s better that someone else is given the job of leading the investigation.

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 14:02 - 43404 of 81564

electionista @electionista ·
UK - YouGov/Sun poll:

CON 31%
LAB 38%
LDEM 8%
UKIP 12%

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2014 14:30 - 43405 of 81564

Post 43405

It does seem like the old guard gathering together protect the youngsters.

I wonder if they are all on the square.

But, I think after the next GE and Labour win, then it would be time to examine the establishment's authority, privileges and powers.

But, I wonder what Cameron is frightened of uncovering. Especially, if it is close to friends at home.

How many his personal advisors and "close" friends, from No 10 days are now, or should be in clink?

Perhaps, the Hazy one can tell us, as he seems to be in close communication with Con party HQ.

MaxK - 09 Jul 2014 14:55 - 43406 of 81564

jimmy b - 09 Jul 2014 15:31 - 43407 of 81564

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You lot get far too serious ,need to enjoy your life , here's a start ..

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2014 15:43 - 43408 of 81564

JB.

She would kill you.

goldfinger - 09 Jul 2014 15:53 - 43409 of 81564

She wouldnt he eats banana skin. (found to be best new aphrodisiac) Dont eat too much though as it makes you sex mad and their are reported cases of rape in the USA.
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