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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

BigTed - 11 Dec 2007 21:21 - 434 of 21973

so, only a quarter % cut then... lets bring on the next correction! I'm ready...

HARRYCAT - 12 Dec 2007 09:17 - 435 of 21973

DOW & NIKKEI both down overnight.
I imagine you shorters are riding the FTSE down as well?
U.S. trade balance & Treasury budget figures out today, with jobless claims & money supply figures out tomorrow. Shorting all the way to the weekend on the cards???

steveo - 12 Dec 2007 09:38 - 436 of 21973

Sticking with it at the moment, ftse struggling to get to 6500, if there's profit taking in the miners soon plus a bit of mixed or ominous data, which is more likely than not, then we'll be heading south again.

As I write this it makes a good attempt.

HARRYCAT - 12 Dec 2007 10:06 - 437 of 21973

DOW futures currently +95, so don't take my word for it that shorting is the way to go!

steveo - 12 Dec 2007 13:09 - 438 of 21973

Am looking at a long term short, not day trading as I am often away from my screen for prolonged periods so daily volatility, would scupper me more often than not.

steveo - 12 Dec 2007 22:35 - 439 of 21973

After such a volatile day on dow am considering sticking to stocks!!! Not good for the nerves.

cynic - 13 Dec 2007 07:00 - 440 of 21973

short SOLA then

maddoctor - 13 Dec 2007 10:25 - 441 of 21973

if mr elliot is right then the dow will now go below 12.7k

maddoctor - 13 Dec 2007 10:55 - 442 of 21973

for alan greenspan;

The Grinchspan Song (with apologies to Dr. Seuss)

You're a sly one, Mr. G.
You really are a heel
You told us all to get a great mortgage deal
And then laughed as we slipped on that banana peel.
You're really quite a meanie, Mr. Greenie.

You're a rotter, Mr. G.
Without a spotter of kindness.
First you say you couldn't have guessed
That freer credit would create such a mess.
Now today you say
It was an "accident waiting to happen."
You can't have it both ways, Mr. 'Span.

You're as charming as an attack dog, Mr. G.
You're full of rotten egg nog
That you are.
Do you see a long hard slog
For the economy to get back in shape
Now that you've lost the Superman cape?
You're really quite a Grinch, Mr. G.

spitfire43 - 13 Dec 2007 10:57 - 443 of 21973

steveo - I\'m sidelined at moment, finding ftse hard to call, will keep a close eye on ftse and try and improve trading method before returning.

Like you I will be looking at trading stocks, when I spot the opportunity, as Cynic says SOLA is one to follow, as always it down to the timing.

Good luck.......

spitfire43 - 13 Dec 2007 11:01 - 444 of 21973

Maddocter - I don't know about apologies to Dr Seuss, I think apologies to Roger Waters would be in order.

cynic - 13 Dec 2007 11:12 - 445 of 21973

still think RIO looks a good bet for t/o, so a fairly good price to buy at today

cynic - 14 Dec 2007 07:51 - 446 of 21973

what a bloodbath while i was flying home! ...... however, unless i am much mistaken US was also dow (quite a?) bit at London close, but ultimately managed to finish +50 or thereabouts.

i note in particular that RIO got hammered (so did i!), but that may well have been just general fall-out in the mining sector, albeit that copper continues to drift - not exactly a plus point for RIO ...... nevertheless, the bid talks still seem very much alive, and as i said yesterday, far too early as it happens, this could make a very profitable investment.

my other fave that took a bit of a beating was SCHE as some of the directors offloaded stock ahead of GB's penal CGT reforms ...... this remains a first class company with results proving the point time after time ...... well worth a further look

cynic - 14 Dec 2007 14:54 - 447 of 21973

have bailed out of lots today, more to reduce exposure than anything else ...... may even reduce further in the coming days as would much rather miss a sustained rally than fret in a plummeting market

HARRYCAT - 14 Dec 2007 15:03 - 448 of 21973

Don't blame you. Looking a bit bleak with miners & banks down.
Looks like retailers are going to have rough Xmas too, with low numbers of shoppers. I can see 'below expectation' reports coming from them in the New Year.
Did you bail out of BML also, cynic?

cynic - 14 Dec 2007 15:49 - 449 of 21973

no ..... haven\'t looked at that one for the last few days ..... only have a modest stake there as it is so illiquid, but may (did not say does) have a bright long term future

spitfire43 - 14 Dec 2007 17:03 - 450 of 21973

interesting yesterday to see ftse take the lead moving 200 point\'s down, with the dow seemingly desperately trying to stay positive at the end of play. I only have holdings left in two companies now, and really am expecting a large correction soon.

I have the feeling there are plenty of investors waiting with cash to take advantage, I wonder how this may support any fall.

cynic - 14 Dec 2007 18:52 - 451 of 21973

Dow is now looking very soggy indeed ..... shall at least sleep more comfortably having taken quite a lot of money off the table

BigTed - 14 Dec 2007 21:47 - 452 of 21973

Spitfire, in one, i dont trust the market one bit and have reduced from 10 holdings over the last two weeks down to 4 and awaiting a bigger drop...

cynic - 15 Dec 2007 09:23 - 453 of 21973

i am certainly pondering shorting again, though whether individual stocks like SOLA or indices, have yet to decide
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