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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

iturama - 08 Jul 2016 19:38 - 4350 of 12628

Conservative MPs will get a “wake-up call” from party members when they discover the extent of support for Andrea Leadsom, the head of the voluntary party has said.

The news came as it emerged that the Tory party’s membership has swelled in size since David Cameron quit, with 10,000 new members joining in the four days after his resignation.

Steve Bell, the president of the Conservative Party’s National Convention which represents the party’s voluntary associations, said he was “expecting” Mrs Leadsom to win.

That will put some faces out of joint if it comes to pass.

Fred1new - 08 Jul 2016 20:18 - 4351 of 12628

She may need a vote of confidence at some time.

Haystack - 08 Jul 2016 20:26 - 4352 of 12628

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Haystack - 08 Jul 2016 20:28 - 4353 of 12628

iturama
I will make no difference as the Conservative rules are different from Labour. You can only vote if you have been a member for more than 3 months first. Luckily the Conservative party considered people attempting to join to vote.

iturama - 08 Jul 2016 20:39 - 4354 of 12628

I understand that. Only reporting what was in the DT. I'm not sure if the 10,000 enters the equation when Bell says that he was expecting Andrea to win. I'm sure he knows the rules.

Haystack - 08 Jul 2016 20:42 - 4355 of 12628

Could be that the new signups have been attracted by May and her policies.

iturama - 08 Jul 2016 20:51 - 4356 of 12628

Yes, she is quite a belle. Easy to see the attraction. :-)

Haystack - 08 Jul 2016 20:59 - 4357 of 12628

At Oxford

iturama - 08 Jul 2016 21:26 - 4358 of 12628

Che bella ragazza!

jimmy b - 08 Jul 2016 21:36 - 4359 of 12628

Oh dear .

Haystack - 08 Jul 2016 22:04 - 4360 of 12628

MaxK - 08 Jul 2016 22:07 - 4361 of 12628

Et tu.

MaxK - 08 Jul 2016 22:09 - 4362 of 12628

So, just to get it straight.

Whoever gets the top job, would still have to get mp's to go along with any legislation.

ie, sensible ideas only would get through...mad despots would be out of luck?

Haystack - 09 Jul 2016 10:50 - 4363 of 12628

Now we know how Cameron walks on water.

iturama - 09 Jul 2016 11:11 - 4364 of 12628

Or in step

MaxK - 09 Jul 2016 11:27 - 4365 of 12628

Nicked from across the road.

Proof, if needed as to who is running the €uroshow.




José Manuel Barroso to become chairman of Goldman Sachs International


Former Portuguese PM and head of EU commission will help Wall Street firm deal with fallout of Brexit vote in non-executive advisory role


Jill Treanor

Friday 8 July 2016 16.09 BST


José Manuel Barroso, the former Portuguese prime minister and one-time head of the European commission, has been hired by Goldman Sachs to help it deal with the fallout from the UK’s shock vote to leave the European Union.

Barroso, who was president of the European commission for 10 years until 2014, is becoming chairman of Goldman Sachs International – the bank’s UK and European operations – and will also be an adviser. His pay has not been disclosed.



https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/08/jose-manuel-barroso-to-become-next-head-of-goldman-sachs-international

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2016 11:45 - 4366 of 12628

We have had the Chilcot damning enquiry into Blair and Iraq.

Is it now time to have an enquiry into Cameron's handling into the holding and reasons for the referendum, his incompetence the probable economic effects of Brexit.

Also, for Cameron and this tory party's, the party of con artists, is the lack of post-referendum planning, which is/was a dereliction of his responsibility.

The results may be worse that Blair's legacy.

Preferably, before the impending chaos occurs.

What a legacy.

Haystack - 09 Jul 2016 13:08 - 4367 of 12628

starting gun has been fired on a Labour leadership contest that is highly likely to culminate in the break-up of the party

— Robert Peston (@Peston) 9 July 2016

Haystack - 09 Jul 2016 13:08 - 4368 of 12628

Angela Eagle to stand for Labour leader on Monday.

Haystack - 09 Jul 2016 13:26 - 4369 of 12628

A Times article in November 2015 which reported that legal advice had been sought by the party which suggested a sitting leader would need to receive nominations from MPs and MEPs in order to stand again.
The only time since 1945 that a sitting Labour leader has been challenged was in 1988 when Tony Benn sought to topple Neil Kinnock. Neil Kinnock says he had to be endorsed by members of the PLP in order to get on the ballot - which some argue has set a precedent.
The issue is crucial because Mr Corbyn could struggle to get 50 nominations, if they were needed.
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