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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

hilary - 13 Jul 2014 16:17 - 43525 of 81564

Think again if you believe I'm referring to Haystack as OBC, Fishfinger. That privilege is reserved exclusively for your red flag flying rent boy, Fred.

And, if you're referring to the fact that I only selected three bookies, that's because the chart loses a lot of clarity with every bookie selected. In addition, some bookies have only recently started pricing the market whilst others can't provide sufficient liquidity to be meaningfully considered.

But if that's what floats your boat, here's the Labour chart with all bookies selected which says the same thing as my earlier chart. Try again, halfwit.

goldfinger - 13 Jul 2014 16:24 - 43526 of 81564

Which clearly shows Labour as outright favourites.

But you carry on with that nasty tounge.

I reckon your suffering from a mid life crisis.........frustration..........lots of frustration.

Fred1new - 13 Jul 2014 18:14 - 43527 of 81564

Hairy one,

Change your knickers.

From your postings you seem to be very bitter?

Are you dejected because you have been rejected or are you expected to be.?


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I wonder how many believe in the charts, polls as reliable prophesies of political futures, or even pronouncements by yourself?

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Interesting to watch "The House of Cards".

Now that maybe symbolically, prophetic of the Cons internal workings!

Whenever, I look at Philip Hammond he reminds me of Francis Urquhart played by Ian Richardson.

It is interesting to watch the Cons imploding and running out of excuses or others to blame for their own folly.

MaxK - 13 Jul 2014 18:32 - 43528 of 81564

And here it is, the deal that could sink millibandus.



Nigel Farage hints at Ukip deal with Tories

Nigel Farage says that if he was David Cameron he would try to do a deal with Ukip ahead of the next election


Nigel Farage suggests Ukip could do deal with Tories Photo: Rex



By Steven Swinford, Senior Political Correspondent

12:17PM BST 13 Jul 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/10964479/Nigel-Farage-hints-at-Ukip-deal-with-Tories.html



Nigel Farage has suggested he is prepared to do a deal with Conservatives ahead of the next election if they surrender working class seats in Essex and Kent.


Mr Farage said that if he was David Cameron, he would offer to give up 30 seats where the Tories are currently trailing behind Labour to give Ukip a clear run.


In exchange, he suggested that Ukip could agree not to fight the Conservatives in marginal seats in more affluent, middle-class areas such as Dorset.


The move would give Ukip a free-run in areas where Margaret Thatcher, the form Conservative leader, previously made ground for the Tories with her focus on the so-called "Essex man".


The Ukip leader has previously ruled out any form of pact with the Conservatives ahead of the next election.


Mr Farage told The Telegraph: "If I was David Cameron I would reason I have had a very sharp decline in support since 2010. I have basically lost it among blue-collar working class voters, the area in which Ukip has done best.

"There are a number of constituencies out there that are not the wealthy areas of London or the leafy shires – Kent, Essex, parts of Lincolnshire – where they are lying third.

"If I were Tory high command I would say there are a number of seats here that we probably aren't going to win but that Labour probably is going to win.

"If we gave you [Ukip] a run in those seats the you would leave us alone in a lot of other seats that don't have those socio economics. I'm thinking the more middle class areas such as Dorset and equally suburban seats."

Mr Farage is widely expected to stand for the next election in Thanet South in Kent, where Laura Sandys, a Europhile Tory MP, is standing down.

goldfinger - 13 Jul 2014 18:52 - 43529 of 81564

If the Tories did a deal with UKIP.........Ukippers would leave the party in droves.

In fact their is a case to be made for labour getting back some of their voters and still being the biggest party.

Haystack - 13 Jul 2014 18:59 - 43530 of 81564

Garage is dreaming. He won't have any MPs to make a deal. It is a desperate attempt to stop the decline of UKIP.

MaxK - 13 Jul 2014 19:05 - 43531 of 81564

He doesent need mp's to do that sort of deal.

It's a mutual non hostility pact.

Fred1new - 13 Jul 2014 19:29 - 43532 of 81564

Are they going to lie on their backs and have tickle each other's tummies.

Sounds a bit what some of them do all ready.
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Haystack - 13 Jul 2014 20:34 - 43533 of 81564

It is a desperation measure to get MPs as his party are losing support.

ExecLine - 13 Jul 2014 22:39 - 43534 of 81564

And Germany win World War 3 the World Cup!

What a scrap in extra time!

TANKER - 14 Jul 2014 07:36 - 43535 of 81564

hay if you think ukip support is falling you are far from correct
I will give any one on this thread odds of 2.1 conservatives and min 1000 bet

Fred1new - 14 Jul 2014 08:09 - 43536 of 81564

Fred1new - 14 Jul 2014 08:09 - 43537 of 81564

.

MaxK - 14 Jul 2014 08:36 - 43538 of 81564

MaxK - 14 Jul 2014 08:50 - 43539 of 81564

Andrea Leadsom received £70,000 donation from family firm in tax haven





Andrea Leadsom, a high-flying Treasury minister, received more than £70,000 from a family business, the parent company of which is controlled out of the Virgin Islands tax haven.

The payments, which appear to be within the letter of the rules for political donations, have been criticised because of the contrast with the Treasury’s stated aim of combating tax avoidance by chanelling money through off-shore firms.

Entries in back numbers of the MPs’ Register of Members’ Interest, which have since been removed from the current Register, show that in 2010 and 2011 Ms Leadsom received a series of payments varying from £5,000 to £20,000 from a firm called Gloucester Research, which later changed its name to GR Software and Research.

The money was used to pay the salaries of staff in Ms Leadsom’s Westminster office after her election in 2010 as MP for South Northamptonshire.

Gloucester Research was a London-based firm, which meant that the donations conformed to a strict rule banning political donations from abroad.

But what the Register did not reveal is that Gloucester Research was owned by Pans (UK) Holdings, based in the secretive offshore haven. Both are among a host of companies controlled by Ms Leadsom’s sister’s husband, Peter de Putron. It emerged last week that Guernsey-based Mr de Putron had made donations of £816,000 to the Conservative party, also through GR.

As well as Mr de Putron, Ms Leadsom’s husband Ben Leadsom is a director of GR Software & Research.

The Labour MP Tom Watson said: “These very large donations might be within the rules, but it certainly isn’t right that a Treasury minister has been taking money in this way. Most reasonable people will see this as completely unreasonable.”



More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andrea-leadsom-received-70000-donation-from-family-firm-in-tax-haven-9603559.html

Fred1new - 14 Jul 2014 08:57 - 43540 of 81564

It seems the stench around Cameron and cronies becomes more odious.

Haystack - 14 Jul 2014 10:41 - 43541 of 81564

Within the rules as are huge union donations and union sponsored MPs.

goldfinger - 14 Jul 2014 11:16 - 43542 of 81564

Who are they hays? Unions havent their funds in tax havens.

Haystack - 14 Jul 2014 11:16 - 43543 of 81564

Why does that matter?

Shortie - 14 Jul 2014 11:32 - 43544 of 81564

How out of touch with the real world can a minister get. How are we to prove we live here in an emergency for billing purposes? How are the NHS going to chase payments of immigrants that have given false addresses or don't have an address. Good idea Mr Hunt but completely unworkable.... although I do think that a levy being charged at visa level is a very good idea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28291276
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