Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

They are supposed to be clamping down on tax havens, yet taking bungs from the dodgers.

Hardly consistant.

many people have off-shore accounts for perfectly legit reasons and/or they are long-standing trusts that were set up in those havens many many years ago

further, once money is brought back on-shore, it automatically attracts tax anyway

It depends on how it brought on-shore, for what purchase and what tax it has been avoided in its history!

Also, in this case what privileges the cash is hoping to "buy"!

Haystack - 14 Jul 2014 11:16 - 43545 of 43549

Why does that matter?..........................ends

because more likely than not its money that as been used for Tax Evasion and thats a crimminal offence.

So now we know Ms Leadsom’s is backed by CROOKS.

Max is right above aswel.

Ex-solicitor general urges Butler-Sloss to stand down from child abuse inquiry

Vera Baird says judge should withdraw as her panel would have to examine if her brother played down abuse claims



Nicholas Watt, chief political correspondent


theguardian.com, Monday 14 July 2014 09.56 BST


A former solicitor general has called on Lady Butler-Sloss to stand down as chair of the inquiry into child abuse over a family conflict of interest.

Vera Baird, the police and crime commissioner for Northumbria who served as Labour's solicitor general from 2007 to 2010, said the home secretary, Theresa May, had made an error in appointing Butler-Sloss because her brother had served as attorney general in the 1980s.

Butler-Sloss, a former president of the family division of the high court, has faced intense pressure since her appointment last week because her brother, the late Sir Michael Havers, served as Margaret Thatcher's attorney general from 1979 to 1987. The Butler-Sloss panel would have to examine whether Havers played down allegations of child abuse during that period.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/14/former-solicitor-general-butler-sloss-child-abuse-inquiry

#43552 is old news.


Baroness Butler-Sloss quits paedophile inquiry

Retired judge steps down as head of major inquiry into historic sex abuse allegations less than a week after she was appointed by Theresa May, the Home Secretary




By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent

12:00PM BST 14 Jul 2014





Baroness Butler-Sloss has stepped down as the head of a major inquiry into child abuse claims following criticism of her links to the establishment.


The retired senior judge quit less than a week after her appointment after a series of claims about her brother’s role in previous investigations more than 30 years ago.


Downing Street said that it was “her decision” to stand down but insisted that the Prime Minister still believes she was the right person to head up the inquiry.


Her decision will prove embarrassing for the Government and comes amid allegations of a Westminster “cover-up” over historic paedophilia allegations.


Theresa May, the Home Secretary, appointed Baroness Butler-Sloss to lead the investigation despite the fact that her late brother, Sir Michael Havers, was Attorney General at the time of the alleged abuses in the 1980s.



more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10965811/Baroness-Butler-Sloss-quits-paedophile-inquiry.html

Tory child abuse whistleblower: 'I supplied underage rent boys for Margaret Thatcher's cabinet ministers'
Jul 13, 2014 06:00 By Matthew Drake

Whistleblower and former Conservative party activist Anthony Gilberthorpe says he provided child prostitutes for a sex and drugs party with top politicians



Senior Tory cabinet ministers were supplied with underage boys for sex parties, it is sensationally claimed.

Former Conservative activist Anthony Gilberthorpe said he told Margaret Thatcher 25 years ago about what he had witnessed and gave her names of those involved.

His allegations that he saw top Tories having sex with boys comes after David Cameron launched a Government inquiry into claims of a cover-up.

Anthony, 52, said: “I am prepared to speak to the inquiry. I believe I am a key witness.”

Trawling seedy streets during a Tory conference, Gilberthorpe says he was asked to find underage rent boys for a private sex party at a top hotel.

Today, more than three decades later, he claims he was acting on the orders of some of the most senior figures of Margaret Thatcher’s government.

Anthony says he was a ­full-time ­political activist when he helped procure the “youngest and prettiest” boys for several cabinet ministers after being told to find “entertainment”.

In a series of explosive claims about conferences at Blackpool and Brighton in the 1980s, he alleges boys as young as 15 indulged in alcohol and cocaine before they had sex with the powerful politicians.

He says one person who attended a party is a current serving minister.

Others said to be present at the parties included Keith Joseph, Rhodes Boyson, Dr Alistair Smith and Michael Havers

As a young aspiring politician, Mr Gilberthorpe admits being in awe of the men, but now insists: “They ­manipulated and groomed me to do their bidding.”

He said: “I was just 17 when I first went to a conference in Brighton in 1978. I couldn’t believe I was rubbing ­shoulders with all these important people and I couldn’t believe that they were taking such a keen interest in me. I would have done anything for them because I was so desperate to make it in politics.

“During the years I was attending conferences between 1978 and 1985, I was a full-time political activist. At the same time I was running for office in district and county council elections.”



Mr Gilberthorpe claims that at the 1983 Blackpool conference he was asked by Dr Alistair Smith – the Tory Party Chairman in Scotland – to arrange for young rent boys to have sex with two high-profile cabinet ministers, who we are not naming today.

Other MPs at that party were said to include Rhodes Boyson and Keith Joseph.

In that week he presented the ­then-Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher with a cake to mark her 58th birthday. But he says he also had a more sordid role – using his young looks to find these underage boys for her ministers.

At the time, the age of consent made it illegal to have gay sex with anyone under 21-years-old.

He said: “Dr Smith, who I looked up to at the time and was the most ­important Tory in Scotland, told me to go and fetch some ‘entertainment’, which was code for young boys and handed me a handful of bank notes. There was about £120.”

Mr Gilber-thorpe claims he was not shocked by the request.

He said: “It was a norm and an open secret that these older members of the Tory party, like
Dr Alistair Smith, paid for young men to join them at sex parties.

“It was the first time I was asked to fetch them but it was hardly surprising as I was becoming one of their trusted people. There was a well known and used cruising area close to the Imperial Hotel, which was a conference hotel. The hotel was not open to the public.

“I was expected to find the youngest and prettiest boys. It was what those men wanted.

“In fact it was all they wanted.

“So myself and another Tory candidate walked down there and sat on some benches underneath an archway in the Pavilion area of Blackpool and waited.”



He said they were approached within minutes by a “guy aged about 20” called James. He went on: “I asked him if he wanted to come back to the hotel and he said ‘yes’. We asked if he had any
mates and he went away and came back with two boys who were aged about 15 and no older.

"It was a surreal situation as we were dressed in suits and ties and they were wearing jeans.

“We said we would make it worth their while and the older one held out his hand and I passed him the money to share out. I promised him there would be plentiful amounts of free booze.”

Mr Gilberthorpe claims he then asked hotel security to contact a man inside who worked at the Conservative Party Central Office to arrange for the three rent boys to be given security clearance and special badges that would allow them to enter the Imperial.

He said: “All MPs, members of the National Executive and chosen delegates were given name badges that allowed you access to the conference hotel.

“Some of them had a small Oscar sign in the corner which was a code to allow others to know you were allowed into these secret parties.” He claimed the Hollywood-style Oscar symbol was actually in honour of gay writer and poet Oscar Wilde.

Once inside the Imperial, he says the group walked up several flights of stairs to a room where politicians were waiting for them, along with a table of cocaine.



He said: “We took them straight upstairs and into a room where Dr Smith and other MPs were waiting for them at the party. They were given drinks and cocaine to snort and then they were all moved into the centre of the room.”

Mr Gilberthorpe said he witnessed two senior Tories having sex with the boys. He said: “A couple of other MPs were in the room. I can clearly remember seeing one politician, who is now a serving Tory MP, standing there and watching.”

Mr Gilberthorpe also claims that two years earlier in 1981 he saw Sir Michael Havers – then Attorney General – at a swimming pool party at the Tory conference in Blackpool, where underage boys were encouraged to perform sex acts on several politicians, who we are also not naming today.

He recalled: “In 1981 I was invited back to the Imperial Hotel by a ­Conservative councillor.

“He was a big player in the notorious right-wing group the Monday Club.

“We arrived at around midnight and I was led down some stairs to a door where two men were stood as security.

“We were allowed to enter and I was led through a tiled changing room where there were piles of clothes strewn across the floor. We then walked into an area where there was a large pool and lots of men either stood around naked or simply wrapped in towels.

“Among the MPs I recognised in there were Keith Joseph and Rhodes Boyson. I saw the Attorney General Michael Havers down there as well.

“There were a couple of glass tables set up as a mini bar with bottles of spirits on them and there was cocaine on several tables. I saw several boys who were clearly aged between 15 and 16 down there and I saw that a few were performing sex acts on MPs.

“Other young men were acting as waiters walking around with little black bow ties on. I was completely shocked by it because I was still only 20 and I had never seen anything like it.”

He added: “I stayed for a couple of hours but was tired because a conference was always a boozy affair where mainly spirits were drunk in large ­quantities from about 5pm onwards.”



Mr Gilberthorpe, now 52, says he also attended a sex party at the Grand Hotel in Brighton during the Conservatives’ 1984 conference.

On the night before the seafront hotel was hit by an IRA bomb attack, he claims he saw senior MPs engaging in sex acts with boys below the age of consent at a “corridor party” held in a row of rooms on the fourth floor.

He said: “There were two guys on the door at the end of the corridor and because we were in the group I was allowed to enter. Several doors were left open and others were closed.

“There were several men walking from one room to another and enjoying sex acts with other naked men, including boys who were clearly only about 15 or 16 years old. I saw Keith Joseph there and a politician who is now still a serving MP.

“It was held on the night before the bomb went off and afterwards one MP crudely joked that it was a good job it was, or there would have been rent boys falling through the floor.”

Mr Gilberthorpe, who decided to finally break his silence because he fears an Establishment cover-up, also claims that in the aftermath of the bombing, in which five people were killed, he was asked to look after two rent boys.

He said: “I rushed over there from my hotel after I heard the blast and saw Keith Joseph stood outside in a blanket.”

Yesterday he said: “I was a teenager when I first met these men and they manipulated me and groomed me to do their bidding.

“Because they were the most powerful men in the land, I was led to believe it was all OK. In truth they were abusers and once they had tired of me they simply discarded me. It is time this came to light before anyone else is abused.

“They didn’t think they were doing anything wrong and it was the norm then. They felt untouchable.”



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The -hit as hit the fan, what now for the memory of Lady Thatcher.??????????????????

Tory child abuse whistleblower: 'Margaret Thatcher knew all about underage sex ring among ministers'
Jul 13, 2014 06:00 By Vincent Moss, Matthew Drake

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-margaret-3849172


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-margaret-3849172#ixzz37RSXk8dK
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JULY 13, 2014 · 3:24 PM ↓ Jump to Comments
THATCHER THE DOWNFALL – NO CHANCE OF A MEMORIAL NOW

When Thatcher died I partied gleefully in Trafalgar Square but most of the country didn’t share my sentiments and Thatcher would today be high up in most lists of the best prime ministers of the last century. She was buried with her much wanted ‘legacy’ intact. She was dead but she was not downfallen. Now however her downfall may be at hand.
She may well be seen in history as the Prime Minister who presided over not so much a cabinet as a criminal conspiracy. Today Operation YEWTREE would be knocking on the door of the Ritz and carting her off to a jail sentence.

Thatcher was wilfully blind to what was obvious around her and therefore let it continue. She stuck her head in the sand. Soon they’ll be removing her portrait from Tory clubs countrywide and pulping the hagiographies. She may have to be disinterred and moved to a landfill site. Any volunteers.


6 responses to “THATCHER THE DOWNFALL – NO CHANCE OF A MEMORIAL NOW”
Greg
July 13, 2014 at 9:15 pm
Here we go…
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-i-3848987

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wrjones2012
July 14, 2014 at 8:16 am
I think its also worth noting the role of MI5 during the years of the Thatcher Government,it seems that they had no notion as acting on behalf of the “Realm” or the “State”.It seems theiir role was purely to protect the image of the Government and its Ministers.What is also becoming clearer from the latest revelations from the Mirror is that MI5 were present whenever the Government took any important decision.

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Northern A
July 14, 2014 at 8:16 am
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/14/mocking-eton-boy-death-politics-of-envy-socialist-worker-article-polar-bear-attack

Owen Jones says stop picking on me coz I’m posh then later goes on to say that it’s important that socialism is rooted in working class experience.

Fuck off back to Oxford. We don’t need no toff spokesman, we can speak for ourselves!

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gordon bennet
July 14, 2014 at 9:20 am
Thatcher should be treated like saville ie dug up and dumped after all her parliament were a bunch of child abusers and should be recognized as such.

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Richard
July 14, 2014 at 10:16 am
It is so apparent why Saville got away with it now. Right from the offset he said he would bring the house of cards down if he was prosecuted.

More revelations….http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5322/dolphin-square-mps-threw-parties-for-sexual-abuse-of-children.

off-shore accounts automatically tax evasion??????
what a load of rubbish!!!

Cynic we have moved on.

Im afraid its the END OF THE MYTH, MARGARET HILDA.....your times up, come in Lady Thatcher come in.

And now we know why Camoron wanted Lady Slosh to head the enquiry.

its all falling down around them at Tory HQ.

Soon they’ll be removing her portrait from Tory clubs countrywide and pulping the hagiographies. She may have to be disinterred and moved to a landfill site.

No Tories about I wonder why???.

you may have noticed that i have pretty much walked away from this thread ...... i find it tiresomely repetitive and predictable and therefore rarely interesting

NO what you mean is it isnt going your way, Thatcher as been found out, I said 2 weeks ago it had all her finger prints on it.

If this had been the Labour Party in deep trouble youd have been all over it like a rash.

cant see the Tories having a chance at the next GE now.

Now now gf, I'm sure the even newer nu labour has a few skeleton's in the cupboard.

That maybe true in isolation but this is an infestation and whats more Thatcher is just as guilty as the vile men who were carrying out these acts.

To think aswel the country gave her a sending off like a state funeral.

Still the MYTH as been blown wide open today.