Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Oh dear .

Et tu.

So, just to get it straight.

Whoever gets the top job, would still have to get mp's to go along with any legislation.

ie, sensible ideas only would get through...mad despots would be out of luck?

Now we know how Cameron walks on water.

Or in step

Nicked from across the road.

Proof, if needed as to who is running the €uroshow.




José Manuel Barroso to become chairman of Goldman Sachs International


Former Portuguese PM and head of EU commission will help Wall Street firm deal with fallout of Brexit vote in non-executive advisory role


Jill Treanor

Friday 8 July 2016 16.09 BST


José Manuel Barroso, the former Portuguese prime minister and one-time head of the European commission, has been hired by Goldman Sachs to help it deal with the fallout from the UK’s shock vote to leave the European Union.

Barroso, who was president of the European commission for 10 years until 2014, is becoming chairman of Goldman Sachs International – the bank’s UK and European operations – and will also be an adviser. His pay has not been disclosed.



https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/08/jose-manuel-barroso-to-become-next-head-of-goldman-sachs-international

We have had the Chilcot damning enquiry into Blair and Iraq.

Is it now time to have an enquiry into Cameron's handling into the holding and reasons for the referendum, his incompetence the probable economic effects of Brexit.

Also, for Cameron and this tory party's, the party of con artists, is the lack of post-referendum planning, which is/was a dereliction of his responsibility.

The results may be worse that Blair's legacy.

Preferably, before the impending chaos occurs.

What a legacy.

starting gun has been fired on a Labour leadership contest that is highly likely to culminate in the break-up of the party

— Robert Peston (@Peston) 9 July 2016

Angela Eagle to stand for Labour leader on Monday.

A Times article in November 2015 which reported that legal advice had been sought by the party which suggested a sitting leader would need to receive nominations from MPs and MEPs in order to stand again.
The only time since 1945 that a sitting Labour leader has been challenged was in 1988 when Tony Benn sought to topple Neil Kinnock. Neil Kinnock says he had to be endorsed by members of the PLP in order to get on the ballot - which some argue has set a precedent.
The issue is crucial because Mr Corbyn could struggle to get 50 nominations, if they were needed.

More bad news for Corbyn. Conservatives to have vote on Trident renewal on 18 July. As many as 150 Labour MPs set to vote for Trident against Corbyn's wishes.

There hasn't been a proper labour party since blair took over, so I don't suppose anyone will notice the difference.

I wonder where the contracts for a waste of money are going?

Perhaps, future directorships?

Some have talked about Theresa May "filling Margaret Thatcher's shoes" as the next PM. Well, can you imagine Maggie hiding below the parapet on any subject? She told it as she saw it, right or wrong. She would have argued her case, for or against Brexit, unlike May, who disappeared from the scene. Speaks a lot for May's lack of conviction or courage to stand up and be counted. At least Corbyn pretended to try.

Once we are rid of the EU and we start trading with the WORLD, then all
this worry by the 'remainer's' will be a thing of the past.

The only thing i'm pissed off about, is having to dawdle around while we're
waiting for article50 to be invoked, it would be much better if we got on with
negotiating trade deals with countries around the world, and started selling-
buying to each other, instead of mollycoddling and stroking the ego's of those
in Brussels.

They're in delay and pray mode.

You may be lucky to leave at all.

You could be right if its left to May, the baron one, who thinks because she
can't have children she'll import some.