Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

GF,

It is OK George's economic policies will bail us out.

It looks like the chickens are coming home to roost just before the next Election with Cameron in fortress tory land.

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Fred looks to me like the Tory party is in a state of total confusion.

Back benches have already said on the sackings camoron cant think hes got away with it.

if tenants are behind with rents then take them from their benefits or wages
and no messing about .

private landlords may find it quite difficult to get attachment of earnings
sticky will know more, as i believe he's the local rachman-incarnate :-)

NO NO NO, that would leave them with no money for food.

they could always give up the ciggies!

What it needs Cyners is silly IDS to reverse his policy of paying rent to the claimant instead of mandatory payment to the landlord.

Its a pathetic scheme paying money direct to claimants one which you know I said would lead to massive problems and it as.

The problem really is though that working families have lost 20% of their disposable income under the coalition whilst the top 1000 people have doubled their incomes and assets under the coalition.

Its a re distribution of wealth back to the mass that is really required and the labour government will do this.

By the way to take arrears direct from benefits and wages would be a reversal of policy for the Tories and would cost the country a lot more in admin fees.

much of what you say above is fair and correct, but of course, you being you, a fair chunk isn't :-)

apart from a very few very fat cats, we've all had to tighten belts considerably over the last few years, and inevitably, those in the lower rungs are hit hardest - e.g. if ciggies go up from £6 to £8 a pack etc etc

nevertheless, even if you tax the top 15% (just to take a figure at random) at 75% marginal rate, it really won't spread far at all

Cynic,

I think smoking is stupid, as is taking "habit forming, or addictive non needed drugs", or drinking alcohol in excess.

But, in the situations such as you seem to be indicating it is difficult to damn to much, especially when the lucky buggers have enough excess income or cash to eat drink live in conditions they wish and have vacations when, or wherever they wish without anxieties for the days after.

Especially, when often it is due to daddy's or mummy's handed down cash and not due purely down to their own endeavour.

The extra bedroom is a bloody stupid ideas, which instead of helping families together leads to greater fragmentation and less support for the elderly or in need of "physical" help or care.
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Also, if as I wrote about 3-4 years ago, money should have been put into social housing and infrastructure initiatives. This would have distributed money into and stimulated the economy as a whole and avoided some of the present and short term future problems.

This would have maintain employment or at least helped to lessen unemployment and therefore the hardship being felt by the less fortunate in society.

Osborne has funnelled Tax payers' money into the hands of the pariahs.


This is the basis of my contempt for Cameron and present conceited administration.

Cyners........

No it wont but it will show the Government of the day is taking a Moral Stance.

And anybody who doesnt like it eg, Michael Caine can FO.

Theirs always a new face around the corner.

Anyway TANKERS point was that benefits and wages should be used to pay arrears but like you say its not such an easy option. eg, you cant get an attachment order if your

self-employed
unemployed
in the army, airforce or navy
in the merchant navy.

Even then after this you have to get a CCJ and for example costs at the Small Claims Court have doubled this year.

What really pees me off is the Tories stance on 1 parent families.

Not the wife and children but the husband or boyfreind.

As per usual IDS has ignored chasing these scoundrels as per normal Tory policy and it adds up to Billions over the years.

you know why dont you??????because a big % on what they call the STUD LIST at the DSS are coppers ex coppers or members of the forces or ex members of the forces.

Not a Dicky Bird have we heard from IDS over the last 4 years and they are the biggest benefit cheats catogery.

43695 - not sure what point you're trying to make

however, it is a sad state that potential father (or otherwise!) cannot insist on a DNA test to clarify paternity - the mother has to agree to it

What im saying is millions is paid out to 1 parent familys each year and the Government have no interest in chasing the fathers up to recoup these benefits.

Now that should make sense. capiche

ps, the Tories are supposed to be the party of Law and order.

In that this reshuffle seems an attempt to prop up a failed tory party and prepare it for an election I would like to know who is paying some of the elite, especially those without portfolios.

Is Cameron using the hard working tax payers taxes to employ them for party political purposes.

This stinks and is lowering of government to a banana corrupt cabal.

It stinks.

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Fred...........

John Prescott @johnprescott · 3h
Cameron now has 10 people 'attending Cabinet' who aren't members of the Cabinet. Is this what he meant by the Big Society? #reshuffle

15 July 2014 Last updated at 15:15

Asylum seeker benefits fraud 'not being tackled'

The Home Office has come under fire for failing to stop asylum seekers fraudulently claiming benefits.

In a scathing report, Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration John Vine said there was "no evidence" of an effective strategy to fight fraud in the £155m asylum support system.

He said insufficient resources also meant that opportunities to find and deter those planning fraud were lost.

The Home Office has insisted work has already begun to improve these areas.

It said its efforts would help streamline the asylum process across the country.

The Home Office also accepted 11 recommendations made in the report and pledged to implement them.

'Far too low'
People applying for asylum in the UK are entitled to housing and financial support of at least £36 a week. Those whose asylum claims have been refused are also eligible for short-term benefits.

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Opportunities to identify and deter those wishing to commit fraud were lost”

John Vine
Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration
In total, almost 27,000 people received support last year.

However, the report found that only six people were successfully prosecuted in the UK in 2012/13 for fraud offences in this area and that only £5,673 was recovered.

Mr Vine said these figures were "far too low".

"I found no evidence that the Home Office had an effective strategy to identify and tackle fraud in the asylum support system," he said.

"Work had not been undertaken to determine what its exposure to fraud risk was.

"No attempt had been made to ensure that fraud and compliance teams operated in a consistent manner and there were insufficient resources dedicated to this work.

"This meant that opportunities to identify and deter those wishing to commit fraud were lost."

The report said the Home Office's UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) failed to follow its own policy of reviewing support cases to determine whether recipients were still eligible.

More than half had not been reviewed regularly, it found.

The report also said the UKVI failed to establish "an effective counter-fraud regime" and had not determined the "scale and nature" of risks posed by fraud.

'Haphazard'
Resource management was therefore "haphazard" and regional teams worked autonomously without any central guidance.

The report said this led to them failing to operate in a consistent manner, setting their own performance targets and not being suitably trained to do investigative work.

In a statement, the Home Office said it was "committed to providing accommodation and support to those who would otherwise be destitute while claims are considered".

"UKVI's security objective is to detect and deter threats and identify, protect and support victims as part of a zero tolerance approach to immigration abuse," it said.

It added that it was pleased with the positive findings in the report, which included remarks that staff working at an asylum screening unit were "committed to safeguarding vulnerable individuals and made a concerted effort to ensure that those requiring immediate access to the support system were given priority".

Yunker Yunker shove it up yer jumper.

Hard luck Dave.