It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

Dave Mackay snuffs it http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/31704507

Had some great battles with him and Spurs in the 60's when Burnley and Spurs were "the" teams.

You know : the biggest problem in the UK football world is overcelebration if I can put it this way.....in important matches players should not indulge in ridiculous hugs when the result is far from being decided......anyway...the Gunners are a complete mystery to me as to how it works at the Emirates....at times they look like amateurs....and then they play world class football !...baffling...really...(just love OX-CH).....have to say...(a must have for national team)...well done Arsenal....have to say I bet on Man U....

What was refreshing tonight at Old Trafford was good solid no nonsense referring. For years the Mancs got away with murder, cheating moaning bastards. Well done Arsenal and Danny Welbeck!! Just make sure you rub it in and either yourselves or the Red Shite keep them out the Champions League :0)

PS and I will now join Moyesy in a large Johnnie Walker Red Label. Van God....Bollocks! :0)

Great ref - so an Arsenal v Liverpool final then! :-)

Van Gaal looks to me like he's on some serious medication permanently . Yep that was award winning reffing .

Oliver was poor. Welbeck dived trying to win a penalty - no card, Sanchez dived on the edge of the box and was rewarded with a free kick, Ramsey or Monreal brought down Di Maria from behind just outside the penalty area - nothing doing, Monreal's handball - another yellow not given, Bellerin on a yellow commits 2 bad yellow card tackles and stays on the pitch. No problem with the Manchester United punishments, the trouble is 6(7) cards to 2 is BS.

Arsenal didn't play world class football, far from it, they were given the win by Manchester United shooting themselves in the foot.

Moyes wasn't up to the job. Manchester United will get a ball playing CB, a RB - clearly doesn't trust Rafael, and add some steel to the midfield. They will then move the ball faster because there will be more confidence in the defensive side of their game. When Ferguson teams went through a poor defensive patch he became more cautious, returning to attack when he was happy he had a good foundation. Also likely to bring in a striker and wing/forward - out with RVP, Falcao, Rafael, Jones/Evans.

Chris Carson - is it something to take your mind off Everton?

Cheers,
KidA

Aye Kid A another few £100 millions should do the trick for Man U eh? And I don't really care what you say about Moyesy, he was shat on from a great height but laughing all the way to the bank. As for Everton second season syndrome in the Prem, jury out on Martinez.

Funny, the world and his wife were saying Manchester United had to spend big, they do and it's 'Ooh, look at them.'. The midfield hadn't been addressed for at least 6 years and the defence was ageing. I don't see how Moyes was shat on, other than appointing him in the first place. He was given a good contract and the money was there for players - he chose the wrong targets or took so long to make up his mind they were gone. He was sacked because there was no light at the end of the tunnel. You can be patient in bad times when you can see something down the line. For me that disappeared shortly after the Fulham game.

Cheers,
KidA

Looks like PSG deserved to win....well...the premiership has taken a knock in europe this season !

Chelsea were disgraceful, thought they could walk it. No urgency until it was too late. Well done PSG.
2517

Vile team.

Last British Team Standing In Europe Playing Tonight!


6pm ITV4

Dynamo Kyiv v Everton (Everton lead on agg 2-1)

COYB!!!

And then there was none. Alcaraz will never be an Everton player as long as I've got a hole in my arse.

The Demise of the Premiership in Europe :
That seems the case this year and we must hope that this is not a trend that is going to continue. we might be entering a phase like it was for a longtime for the French where their national squad picked from many clubs formed a very good team but at the same time time their clubs did not perform at all well in the european competitions.
England might be heading the same way;
I'm optimistic about Roy Hodgson having the ability to turn England into an excellent team !, but the clubs exiting at an early stage is a disaster !.
Partly the problem is that too many players are probably overpaid and far too many imports that in my view do not add quality to the premiership and the players are constantly being reminded by how good they supposedly are by the media : you see it suits everybody, the media because it fills bulletins up with nonsense , the papers like it because of the same reason, endless advertising...everbody's a winner except for the fans and the bad results that follow..
We are in a trough as far as great British players are concerned and this has been the case for a couple of decades now.....
Where are the Robsons..Keegans...Francis...Moores and Charltons..Bests...and many more of today ? : there aren't any ! that's the answer but the media will bullshit you otherwise...putting average players on a pedestal way before they have proved their worth...
The British and English public are and have been conditioned to "we are the best" when in fact we are now one of the mediocre nations as far as football is concerned...here's hoping RH can bring back some sturdy quality and imaginitive football to the national squad !..

One swallow does not make a summer

And as for the argument that this leads to a weakened England - what drivel

Who exactly do England look to from Chels, Pool, Arse etc

You may have been conditioned by the media that "we are the best" as you put it, but anyone with half an IQ knows otherwise and as for your closing comment - you're living in a dream world - it ain't gonna happen

The clubs are not as strong as they used to be but the England team can still perform well ....that's what I'm saying....

Remember the world cup 1990 !....English clubs were banned from playing in the european competitions.....if I remember correctly ManU around that time were back in the cup winners cup and won it first time round !....(not sure about the correct dates)...anyway.....the national side did ever so well in that world cup.....now....can our present side perform extremely well in the next year or so ? ....I believe so !.......anyway.....just a thought : a famous Italian manager said once when we were banned that the european competitions without English clubs were like a spaghetti without sauce !....

Burnley only 3rd from the top now... what a season -):

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