Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

GF,

If the ID cards had not been cancelled by this rabble then many of false claims and tax avoidance or evasion could have been clamped down on it.

It probably could have helped to prevent illegal immigrants. (Has Dave had his passport checked. 8-) )

It could have been the basis of controlling money laundering through the city.

Don't be daft Fred, they'd have been dishing out free id cards to all and sundry.

MAx

You mean confetti in the cabinet!

(Engage the grey matter.)


However,

I have just been informed by a Baroness Something, or other, that we are going to see a more of tory women in public life and on the TV.

Being of a nervous disposition, if that means they are going to take their clothes off, I hope that it is not so.

I dunno Fred, I thought you fancied Esther.

sticky - i can tell you CSA is downright vicious so not sure that your accusation is correct

Juncker jeered over euro as he urges huge spending package - € 300bn!!!!

now where have we seen the attempt to borrow hugely and then try to spend the way out of recession before, though with much smaller numbers?

anyone remember the consequence?

The CSA s not controlled by any particular government. That have been pretty weak regarding chasing absent fathers for years.

really? ..... i certainly know of one case where they were downright spiteful

of course, it does require the mother to lodge a claim with CSA which, de facto, means divulging the name of the alleged father, which may well be something of which she is uncertain

i also believe that even having had CSA on their backs, the father still has few if any rights

They'll chase the ones they can find...not easy with the usual suspects.

The hapless joe with a steady job is the number one target...easy pickings.

Lets get this right, no matter who runs the CSA they should be recovering a lot more money than they are.

And if a women wont cooperate then she gets a lot lower rate of benefit its as simple as that.

And the father who as resisted payment is caught and thrown in prison or pays up the arrears he owes.

And these religions where they have 3 4 or 5 wifes and umpteen kids all who have to be paid for by the taxpayer are not turned a blind eye to.

Its gone on for too long now andthis includes coppers and the forces where the Tory party have always turned a blind eye.

I know how it works Cyners I worked for the old DHSS for nearly 10 years. We used to have then what was called a 'stud list' these men had children to different women and got away with it.

No longer should this be allowed.

These are the people who should be forced into slave labour not the kids who cant get jobs after University and School.

Good prog on BBC1 at 9, dubbed Benefits Street 2.

Immigration.

Wonder if TANKER will be watching, he'l probably be out with his pop shot gun tomorrow.

But it's Nu Labour who let the situation get out of hand gf.

Immigration yep you could say that but lets not forget Camorons promises, last year it was back to labours average.

Its the EEC that hamper every party.

Hope you watch the prog anyway. Should be a good debate tomorrow on here if its as good as they make the prog out to be.

That young Polish Joiner here 6 month but cant speak the lingo........big minus.

Immigrants taking property and Filling it with freinds...........big minus.

Almost as bad as English students looking for digs.

A DRAIN so far.

Im flexible though.

Will have to see next week.

I never had a pram.

My mother had a large shawl.

It was warmer!

I slept in a drawer and got bathed in a bucket ,it was tough back then .