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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

required field - 23 Feb 2011 09:39 - 4389 of 6906

I think that William Hague does a very good imitation of himself, and :....."from a very good source I gather that we are ready to send the daleks in to Libya.....you must obey..obey....the leader.....oh sorry,.. I mean disobey....disobey the leader....."...

Haystack - 23 Feb 2011 12:10 - 4390 of 6906

ITLOTB
Actually, I think you live in London. It would be easy to find out.

Haystack - 23 Feb 2011 12:40 - 4391 of 6906

Irish journalist David Cronin verbally attacked Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman during a press conference he held with European Union officials in Brussels on Tuesday.

Lieberman was forced to curtail the conference after Cronin yelled out: Free Palestine, Israel is an apartheid state, and stop Israeli crimes.

Cronin also tried to place Lieberman on citizens arrest, aided by an EU law allowing citizens to apprehend subjects believed to have committed crimes until police arrive.

I did it because I believe Israel is racist, Cronin said, and that Lieberman must be held accountable for his crimes.

Haystack - 23 Feb 2011 19:22 - 4392 of 6906

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/2011222211617377989.html

Is the West Bank next?

If Israel refuses to accept a viable peace deal, the revolt sweeping the Arab world will arrive in Palestine.

If Binyamin Netanyahu's govenment, and its lobby in Washington, were rational they would be rushing to plan Israel's evacuation from the occupied territories, and encouraging the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

That is because they would understand that the Arab revolution will not stop at the gates of the West Bank, especially when it is the occupation that unites virtually all Arabs and Muslims in common fury.

Haystack - 23 Feb 2011 19:29 - 4393 of 6906

fahel
Are you in Amman, Jordan?

cynic - 23 Feb 2011 19:44 - 4394 of 6906

especially when it is the occupation that unites virtually all Arabs and Muslims in common fury .... sorry but that's total bullshit and blatant propaganda .... the average guy emirati, saudi, bahraini et al wouldn't give gaza a second's thought a week unless it's thrust down his throat, and probably not even then



Haystack - 23 Feb 2011 20:05 - 4395 of 6906

It is the preoccupation of the activists though and it is they who will rise up and get the rest going.

cynic - 23 Feb 2011 20:12 - 4396 of 6906

activists of any hue or persuasion will always make a mess of life for the peaceful and law-abiding majority .... and by implication you actually concur with what i posted previously

Haystack - 23 Feb 2011 20:27 - 4397 of 6906

In the case of the ME, it seems that the activists are making a pretty good job at improving the lives of people. I expect that the same will happen in the West Bank. The Palestinians are biding their time.

It is intereresting to note that Hamas have been attempting reconcililiation with Fatah over the last year or so. Fatah were unwilling to discuss this and were being supported in this by the PA and the US as it would give Hamas a foothold in the West Bank.

Fatah have, in recent days, been trying to push this ahead now, instead of preventing it. I guess it is partly due to the release of documents by Al Jazeera showing the PA and Fatah have acted in bad faith as far as the Palestinians are concerned. It is now Hamas that is in no hurry to join up with Fatah. They have bigger fish to fry now.

ptholden - 23 Feb 2011 20:41 - 4398 of 6906

Haystack,

Should be using your Moderator's privileges to interrogate posters' IP addresses and post locations on this or any other thread?

cynic - 23 Feb 2011 20:41 - 4399 of 6906

what a load of rubbish ..... mr goebbels would be proud of you

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 01:43 - 4400 of 6906

ptholden

I am not a moderator and that's not how to do it. I could do it on any BB. I have done it on ADVFN many times. I did it first about 7 years ago on ADVFN and even told other posters how it works. I can get anyone's IP address. It is a simple trick. In a lot of cases a trace of the IP address then gives you just the generic location of their ISP. However, in the case of static IP addresses and a lot of dynamic ones you get the actual house address. People's IP addresses are in the public domain. You hand it over to every web site you visit.

ptholden - 24 Feb 2011 07:22 - 4401 of 6906

Let's not split hairs, I didn't say you were a moderator, I said using moderators privileges. Actually you were once a MAM moderator, perhaps you've given up because you couldn't moderate yourself?

In The Land of the B - 24 Feb 2011 09:26 - 4402 of 6906

"Let's not split hairs, I didn't say you were a moderator, I said using moderators privileges. Actually you were once a MAM moderator, perhaps you've given up because you couldn't moderate yourself? "

LOL

What are we supposed to do, quake in fear of the muppet parrot? LOL

The blustering self-delusional parrot being a moderator is like Col. Gaddafi being in charge of UN human rights.

fahel - 24 Feb 2011 09:26 - 4403 of 6906

Haystack,

Yes

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 10:35 - 4404 of 6906

No. I used a trick. Imagine you post a picture on here. Then, when you access the picture your IP addess is sent back to the place where the picture is stored. If you put width = 0 and height = 0 then the picture is invisible! You can then match up the time of a post to the times of access to the picture. Simple.

fahel - 24 Feb 2011 10:38 - 4405 of 6906

Former US Ambassador Carl Coon: "Our veto in the Security Council,




FM: John Whitbeck



Transmitted below is a succinct but penetrating appraisal of the significance of this week's American veto from retired American ambassador Carl Coon, as posted today on his website.



From personal experience with old friends and distinguished recipients, I believe that few people are as distressed by the moral and practical degeneration of America's role in the world since the country acquiesced in Zionist domination as retired American ambassadors, who tend to have spent lifetimes sincerely serving a country they still love and once believed was worthy or respect and emulation.



The "dishonourable way we chose to leave centre stage" is, understandably, particularly painful for them.





Our veto in the Security Council

By Carl Coon



Posted on February 20, 2011



When we vetoed the resolution on Israeli settlements in the UN Security Council, something that had been pretty clear before became crystal clear, at least to the rest of the world. No more fig leaf, no more excuses, we now stand naked before the eyes of the rest of humanity. It is now commonly understood that at all times, under all imaginable circumstances, when little Israel cracks the whip, the American colossus obeys.

Most Americans probably wont be aware of the extent to which our nation has humiliated itself in the eyes of the rest of humanity, for our press will play the event down. Outside our borders the reaction will be more severe. There will be a slow burn as former friends and allies come to recall this signal event as a tipping point, a sign that the US can be taken as a reliable partner only in Tel Aviv.

As for NATO, a process of erosion already begun will accelerate with ramifications in many fields, starting with Afghanistan. Pivotal nations like Turkey will be more inclined to pursue independent policies, ignoring our interests. Our adversaries, of course, will have a field day exploiting the propaganda coup we just handed them.

It can be argued that the intrinsic importance isnt all that great, and the whole issue is more a matter of symbolism than substance. But symbols can be important too. I predict that future historians will mark this event as the moment when the sun began to set over the American Empire that emerged after World War II.

I foresee that eventually even the most fogbound and patrio-centric of our descendants will feel a tinge of remorse at this most dishonourable way we chose to leave centre stage.

--
Robert V. Keeley
3814 Livingston Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20015-2803
Tel: (202) 244-9163
Fax: (202) 244-6945
mailto:rkeeley@gmail.com
website: http://fiveandtenpress.com

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 10:46 - 4406 of 6906

A recognised definition of a diplomat is someone sent abroad to lie for their country.

In The Land of the B - 24 Feb 2011 11:09 - 4407 of 6906

You really are a sad specimen, Greg Hayes.
And you don't even realise it.

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 11:32 - 4408 of 6906

LOL

You seem to be the agressive one, spouting hate more than anyone else on this thread.

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