cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
steveo
- 12 Dec 2007 22:35
- 439 of 21973
After such a volatile day on dow am considering sticking to stocks!!! Not good for the nerves.
cynic
- 13 Dec 2007 07:00
- 440 of 21973
short SOLA then
maddoctor
- 13 Dec 2007 10:25
- 441 of 21973
if mr elliot is right then the dow will now go below 12.7k
maddoctor
- 13 Dec 2007 10:55
- 442 of 21973
for alan greenspan;
The Grinchspan Song (with apologies to Dr. Seuss)
You're a sly one, Mr. G.
You really are a heel
You told us all to get a great mortgage deal
And then laughed as we slipped on that banana peel.
You're really quite a meanie, Mr. Greenie.
You're a rotter, Mr. G.
Without a spotter of kindness.
First you say you couldn't have guessed
That freer credit would create such a mess.
Now today you say
It was an "accident waiting to happen."
You can't have it both ways, Mr. 'Span.
You're as charming as an attack dog, Mr. G.
You're full of rotten egg nog
That you are.
Do you see a long hard slog
For the economy to get back in shape
Now that you've lost the Superman cape?
You're really quite a Grinch, Mr. G.
spitfire43
- 13 Dec 2007 10:57
- 443 of 21973
steveo - I\'m sidelined at moment, finding ftse hard to call, will keep a close eye on ftse and try and improve trading method before returning.
Like you I will be looking at trading stocks, when I spot the opportunity, as Cynic says SOLA is one to follow, as always it down to the timing.
Good luck.......
spitfire43
- 13 Dec 2007 11:01
- 444 of 21973
Maddocter - I don't know about apologies to Dr Seuss, I think apologies to Roger Waters would be in order.
cynic
- 13 Dec 2007 11:12
- 445 of 21973
still think RIO looks a good bet for t/o, so a fairly good price to buy at today
cynic
- 14 Dec 2007 07:51
- 446 of 21973
what a bloodbath while i was flying home! ...... however, unless i am much mistaken US was also dow (quite a?) bit at London close, but ultimately managed to finish +50 or thereabouts.
i note in particular that RIO got hammered (so did i!), but that may well have been just general fall-out in the mining sector, albeit that copper continues to drift - not exactly a plus point for RIO ...... nevertheless, the bid talks still seem very much alive, and as i said yesterday, far too early as it happens, this could make a very profitable investment.
my other fave that took a bit of a beating was SCHE as some of the directors offloaded stock ahead of GB's penal CGT reforms ...... this remains a first class company with results proving the point time after time ...... well worth a further look
cynic
- 14 Dec 2007 14:54
- 447 of 21973
have bailed out of lots today, more to reduce exposure than anything else ...... may even reduce further in the coming days as would much rather miss a sustained rally than fret in a plummeting market
HARRYCAT
- 14 Dec 2007 15:03
- 448 of 21973
Don't blame you. Looking a bit bleak with miners & banks down.
Looks like retailers are going to have rough Xmas too, with low numbers of shoppers. I can see 'below expectation' reports coming from them in the New Year.
Did you bail out of BML also, cynic?
cynic
- 14 Dec 2007 15:49
- 449 of 21973
no ..... haven\'t looked at that one for the last few days ..... only have a modest stake there as it is so illiquid, but may (did not say does) have a bright long term future
spitfire43
- 14 Dec 2007 17:03
- 450 of 21973
interesting yesterday to see ftse take the lead moving 200 point\'s down, with the dow seemingly desperately trying to stay positive at the end of play. I only have holdings left in two companies now, and really am expecting a large correction soon.
I have the feeling there are plenty of investors waiting with cash to take advantage, I wonder how this may support any fall.
cynic
- 14 Dec 2007 18:52
- 451 of 21973
Dow is now looking very soggy indeed ..... shall at least sleep more comfortably having taken quite a lot of money off the table
BigTed
- 14 Dec 2007 21:47
- 452 of 21973
Spitfire, in one, i dont trust the market one bit and have reduced from 10 holdings over the last two weeks down to 4 and awaiting a bigger drop...
cynic
- 15 Dec 2007 09:23
- 453 of 21973
i am certainly pondering shorting again, though whether individual stocks like SOLA or indices, have yet to decide
spitfire43
- 15 Dec 2007 09:24
- 454 of 21973
it seems we are all agreed, a correction is on the cards, the only nagging doubt I have is that in the past all correction or bear markets, haven't been anticipated and have come as a surprise.
cynic
- 15 Dec 2007 12:26
- 455 of 21973
just had another look at my charts on page 1 ...... very difficult to draw any conclusions not least because it is so uncertain as to whether or nor hoped-for support levels will indeed supply same
however, for the purpose of the exercise, let us suppose they will ......
FTSE ..... look for bounce from 6350 which is pretty much where it is likely to open on Monday ...... suspect it will dip quite sharply below that in early trades, so hope for a quick rebound, though that will be quite heavily dependent on where Dow is indicating.
FTSE 250 ...... cannot determine anything from the chart, but certainly looks more likley to fall than to challenge probably resistance at +/-10550
DOW ...... hope for support at about 13325 or 13225 or at worst, 13000
S&P ...... may get support at about 727 but could easily fall to 715 ...... below that gets a bit nasty
NASDAQ ..... unless markets continue to run scared, quite a good chance of a bounce from last night's closing level
maddoctor
- 15 Dec 2007 12:35
- 456 of 21973
only one thing matters , the 200ma on the DOW
cynic
- 15 Dec 2007 13:04
- 457 of 21973
don't particularly agree, but that is at 13325
maddoctor
- 15 Dec 2007 13:46
- 458 of 21973
they,ve been defending it for 3 days now , don,t expect anybody to agee , just my opinion