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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

jkd - 07 Sep 2009 15:37 - 4398 of 21973

dont know what to make of this. looks for all the world that a major pull back is overdue. where is it? i dont know. my charts would suggest another 150/200 points rise is still possible on ftse before we see it, or not, as the case may be. fwiw im still long and bearish. LoL
regards
jkd

jimmy b - 07 Sep 2009 15:40 - 4399 of 21973

NO ITS GOING UP FOREVER!!! :-)

jkd - 11 Sep 2009 14:10 - 4400 of 21973

jb
you could be right. however im starting to get nervous.ftse is now up approx 100 points from my last post. everyone seems so bullish, lots of individual stocks making "break outs" from low formations etc. it just seems too gooood to be true. ive decided im going to sit tight and stick with what i have for the time being, i.e.im not buying any more for a week or two or more. famous last words. Lol. doesnt anyone sell anymore?
regards
jkd

HARRYCAT - 11 Sep 2009 14:40 - 4401 of 21973

Take profits then & lock them in. Wait for a downturn, which I agree is probably coming soon. Time to be looking at gold stocks if so, as a safe(?) haven. The main exceptions are the oil explorers, imo, which are news driven & probably worth holding for 'duster or gusher' RNS.

Master RSI - 11 Sep 2009 15:06 - 4402 of 21973

Were the FTSE is leading to

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jkd - 11 Sep 2009 15:11 - 4403 of 21973

HC
thanks for that. i could take profits and lock them in as you suggest, in fact i have stop losses in place to do just that. as for waiting for the downturn which is probably coming soon? what if? it doesnt. then i miss out on the subsequent rise. i'm often/mostly wrong anyway. so in "expecting" it, it probably wont happen within my "expectations".... just re read sounds ok to me.
miners. oilies and financials have been and will continue to drive the ftse.they will eventually succombe to technical reversals in price eventually, whether short or long term remains to be seen....in my opinion. its just a question as to whether or not they all suuccombe at the same time or not. if not, then one or others will hold up the other,and the ftse will continue on its upward path. thats the stockmarket which guides sentiment.
holders of "good" solid stocks will suffer just as badly, if not worse,if ftse sentiment collapses.
it could all happen overnight( or a weekend) or it may never happen at all.
regards
jkd

cynic - 11 Sep 2009 15:18 - 4404 of 21973

another analysis - not mine - reckons to short the index at 5190

Stan - 11 Sep 2009 15:20 - 4405 of 21973

The Stock-Market should be treated like a hot bath, in and out quick.. or something like that. Said by the Rothchilds apparently.

jkd - 11 Sep 2009 16:19 - 4406 of 21973

s
should that be cold bath? personally i like to linger in a hot one, but not a cold one.
regards
jkd

HARRYCAT - 11 Sep 2009 17:10 - 4407 of 21973

Simon Griffin of Shares Mag is long Gold. Although that is just based on charting analysis, it suggests that he is expecting a shift by investors to the safety of the Gold bunker! I've got one foot in the door just in case.

jkd, presumably you used to be indecisive, but now you are not so sure? !!!!! ;o)

jkd - 11 Sep 2009 18:03 - 4408 of 21973

HC
many have more than one foot in that bunker door.i just have the one,HGM. been accumulating slowly but surely.
your summary of me is is most astute and precise. thats why i am intending to do nothing over coming weeks. i think so anyway but i may change my mind, bit like the markets really wouldnt you say? .. if in doubt do nowt.... .;-)
i am in profit so not chasing , will let the market come to me and no doubt wipe the grin. it usually does .;-)
regards
jkd

HARRYCAT - 12 Sep 2009 06:26 - 4409 of 21973

St. Ledger day today, traditionally a time when those investors who quit the market in may, now look to join the fray again. How times have changed & some of the old sayings have lost their relevance!

jimmy b - 12 Sep 2009 08:53 - 4410 of 21973

HARRY , hope its not sell on St Ledgers day come back in May :-)

jkd - 13 Sep 2009 20:23 - 4411 of 21973

i expect everyone knows or has heard of the crash of 1929. for cyclists whether it be say 5yr or 10yrs or whatever then 2009 becomes a very important year,it is an 80 year cycle, top or bottom? no one knows. until hindsight in a year or two or more. anyway im watching the yearly high and low.as always just my opinion so please dyor.
regards
jkd

jkd - 13 Sep 2009 21:30 - 4412 of 21973

it just occured to me, how can this help us? well its most difficult to help us with regard to the low since that seems so far away. but it might help us in respect of the high, IF that is 2009 gives us a high. think about it, and as always just my opinion and dyor
regards
jkd

goldfinger - 21 Sep 2009 09:40 - 4413 of 21973

This is it then..... the market correction we have all been waiting for.

Positioned myself so that im holding very few stocks (smart ass, even if i say so myself0....... in fact just 2 traders.........now one. 10% fall at most ????.

Were doomed doooooooooooooomed i say, doomed.

KEAYDIAN - 21 Sep 2009 09:48 - 4414 of 21973

(slap) get a grip.

:O)

cynic - 21 Sep 2009 09:55 - 4415 of 21973

a certain chartist's Gann theory view is that FTSE was to be shorted at 5190 - it actually touched 5200 this morning ...... certainly the market(s) are well-overdue a sharp correction, but that has been a valid opinion for a while though never borne out (yet!)

HARRYCAT - 21 Sep 2009 10:19 - 4416 of 21973

Shouldn't gold be rising in price if the bottom is about to fall out of the FTSE?
Also DOW futures only -50 at present.

cynic - 21 Sep 2009 10:34 - 4417 of 21973

didn't say "bottom to fall out"; i said "sharp correction", there being a very significant difference
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