Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack,

Yes

No. I used a trick. Imagine you post a picture on here. Then, when you access the picture your IP addess is sent back to the place where the picture is stored. If you put width = 0 and height = 0 then the picture is invisible! You can then match up the time of a post to the times of access to the picture. Simple.

Former US Ambassador Carl Coon: "Our veto in the Security Council,




FM: John Whitbeck



Transmitted below is a succinct but penetrating appraisal of the significance of this week's American veto from retired American ambassador Carl Coon, as posted today on his website.



From personal experience with old friends and distinguished recipients, I believe that few people are as distressed by the moral and practical degeneration of America's role in the world since the country acquiesced in Zionist domination as retired American ambassadors, who tend to have spent lifetimes sincerely serving a country they still love and once believed was worthy or respect and emulation.



The "dishonourable way we chose to leave centre stage" is, understandably, particularly painful for them.





Our veto in the Security Council

By Carl Coon



Posted on February 20, 2011



When we vetoed the resolution on Israeli settlements in the UN Security Council, something that had been pretty clear before became crystal clear, at least to the rest of the world. No more fig leaf, no more excuses, we now stand naked before the eyes of the rest of humanity. It is now commonly understood that at all times, under all imaginable circumstances, when little Israel cracks the whip, the American colossus obeys.

Most Americans probably wont be aware of the extent to which our nation has humiliated itself in the eyes of the rest of humanity, for our press will play the event down. Outside our borders the reaction will be more severe. There will be a slow burn as former friends and allies come to recall this signal event as a tipping point, a sign that the US can be taken as a reliable partner only in Tel Aviv.

As for NATO, a process of erosion already begun will accelerate with ramifications in many fields, starting with Afghanistan. Pivotal nations like Turkey will be more inclined to pursue independent policies, ignoring our interests. Our adversaries, of course, will have a field day exploiting the propaganda coup we just handed them.

It can be argued that the intrinsic importance isnt all that great, and the whole issue is more a matter of symbolism than substance. But symbols can be important too. I predict that future historians will mark this event as the moment when the sun began to set over the American Empire that emerged after World War II.

I foresee that eventually even the most fogbound and patrio-centric of our descendants will feel a tinge of remorse at this most dishonourable way we chose to leave centre stage.

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A recognised definition of a diplomat is someone sent abroad to lie for their country.

You really are a sad specimen, Greg Hayes.
And you don't even realise it.

LOL

You seem to be the agressive one, spouting hate more than anyone else on this thread.

I don't hate anyone and certainly not you.
My only feelings about you are amusement and deep, deep pity for your family.

You spout hate though based on no information and contribute nothing to this debate. You post as though someone very bitter and twisted.

nah nah nah nah - n my dad's bigger than yours too!!

haystack - i don't think you can describe your own postings as remotely balanced or thoughtful either

I think that we are close to american special forces arriving in Tripoli unannounced.....be prepared to wake up to the regime being toppled....

are you getting confused with the report that SBS may be going in to rescue brits?

parrot, calm down sweetie, and take the tablets, you know it makes sense and will make you feel better

If US special forces go into Tripoli, which they won't, the collateral damage would mean no civilian population would be left

ITLOTB
You are typical of the reaction to any criticism of Israel. The first reaction is to say anti-semetic and Nazi, which is what you say constantly with no evidence. Then you attack the person doing the criticism in any way you can think of.

Israel's self supposed belief of strength is also their Achilles heel and ultimate weakness. At some stage and probably over the next year or so there is going to be a major uprising by Palestinians in Gaza and more importantly in the West Bank. When that happens, Israel will over react as usual and disproportionately. That will be the trigger for conflict of a more serious nature bringing in support from outside. It is a time bomb of Israel's making and has been a long time coming and overdue.

US special forces that have entered simialr conflicts have not decimated local populations. Nothing will happen until most countries have removed their own nationals. The Arab League will not be keen on the US going to Lybia as they will see it as another possible Iraq with the forces taking a long time to leave.

The situation with Tripoli surrounded with Gaddafi's men roaming and badly treating the population would be intolerable and the only solution would be to take out the tanks.....the UN should do this but they are so slow to move...

The UN is a toothless body. It is no better than the League of Nations that it replaced. They bided too much time over Serbia, Kosovo, Rwanda etc. The trouble is that the UN has no mandate to intervene anywhere they can only act as peace keepers and fire when fired upon in that role. They could authorise Nato or some grouping to intervene. How long could that take - a year maybe?

I wonder if Tripoli would turn into a Stalingrad situation with snipers from both sides everywhere and street battles....shame for Libya if that happens....

This thread is very widely read even though there are few posters. (Adelaide)

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It could be more like Mogadishu these days as per 'Black Hawk Down'.

Perhaps they could tempt Gaddafi away with a 20% discount card from Harrods ?....just a thought...