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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 21 Jul 2014 14:20 - 44047 of 81564

RYANAIR . DO NOT TRAVEL WITH SEE COMPANY ASK THE CEO WHY THEY DO NOT GIVE A SHITE ABOUT THEIR PASSENGERS , AFTER SEEING THAT VIDEO YOU CAN SUE FOR DAMAGE SO SUE .

TANKER - 21 Jul 2014 14:21 - 44048 of 81564

FROM A WORKER WHO WORKS IN SUPPLY

TANKER - 21 Jul 2014 14:22 - 44049 of 81564

AND IF YOU SAW PRINGLES BEING MADE YOU WOULD NEVER EAT THE CRAP.

Haystack - 21 Jul 2014 14:24 - 44050 of 81564

We are all going to die!

TANKER - 21 Jul 2014 14:26 - 44051 of 81564

HAY . yes we will all die the difference is I no we will never come back like these dumb idiots who think they will .god does not exist its a bloody fairy tale .

Shortie - 21 Jul 2014 14:27 - 44052 of 81564

I'm not convinced on the entire tax avoidance thing, taxation seams to me to be designed for exploitation in the first place... Interesting to see you missed Boots off your list, they have been at it far longer than any of the companies you mention.

MaxK - 21 Jul 2014 14:30 - 44053 of 81564

How does this work?


“From a total investment of around £300,000, I anticipate a final liability of seven or eight times what I put in,” he says. “It’s absolutely life-changing.”

goldfinger - 21 Jul 2014 14:38 - 44054 of 81564

Hays Ive been dieing every day since I was born.

hilary - 21 Jul 2014 14:41 - 44055 of 81564

You'd eat a Pringle?



Strewth. Is it something they put in the water oop norf?

goldfinger - 21 Jul 2014 14:44 - 44056 of 81564

About time these Tax dodgers got done. Serves them right. For every penny they havent paid we the tax paying public have had to subsidise them.

Im glad aswel they are paying back far more than they would have paid.

Cant see it doing much for the Tories at the GE though.

cynic - 21 Jul 2014 14:52 - 44057 of 81564

sticky - you really are very judgmental, and unfairly so ...... from what little i have read, the film schemes in particular, have been in existence for a good many years and with nary a squawk (as far as i know) from HMRC

whether or not it is just the leveraging and the degree thereof that has raised flags, i really don't know, and nor do you
if it is this aspect, and it is that that is only of recent development, then the wise and prudent tax advisor should perhaps have raised the potential issue with his client

goldfinger - 21 Jul 2014 14:59 - 44058 of 81564

Cyners say that again in pure English.

These cheats have been caught its as simple as that.

If they have been made bankrupt thats a matter for them and the person who as introduced them to the dodgy schemes. No doubt their will be court cases.

I for one am applauding HMRC for catching these so called non talented celebrities, may Gary Barlow rot in hell.

Haystack - 21 Jul 2014 14:59 - 44059 of 81564

Almost all foreign companies pay no tax. You can include Ford, Vauxhall and many foreign car makers, Coca Cola etc. They all use differential pricing methods to put the profit in their country of choice. UK companies do it as well with ICI being just one of them.

cynic - 21 Jul 2014 15:07 - 44060 of 81564

i'll say it yet again ......
these guys are not cheats, though i know you love to use such unwarranted and inflammatory language

there is nothing wrong at all in avoiding tax, though on a personal level, you may not care for the vehicle used
however, the investors in these schemes will or at least should have been using a top quality tax adviser
if the tax adviser scrutinised well and concluded that the scheme in question and its method of application had been in operation for a good number of years without HMRC raising any flags at all, then it is fully understandable why someone might then have invested

goldfinger - 21 Jul 2014 15:15 - 44061 of 81564

They are cheats. No other word to describe them.

They knew they werent paying the correct rate of tax. And if they deny his they are liars aswel.

They have been caught and dont like it.

Tough luck.

ExecLine - 21 Jul 2014 15:20 - 44062 of 81564

After questions given to the 'stinging fake sheik', the Tulisa Contostavlos drugs trial collapses!

http://news.sky.com/story/1304917/fake-sheikh-suspended-as-tulisa-trial-collapses

goldfinger - 21 Jul 2014 15:24 - 44063 of 81564

Jim Harra, director-general of business tax at HMRC, said that the people taking up such schemes are not the “hardworking” majority. “They are the 43,000 affluent people who knowingly signed up to an avoidance scheme in full awareness they were using artificial arrangements to reduce their tax bill. I have no sympathy for these people.”..................................ends

and no neither do I.

In fact they should thank themselves very lucky they arent doing a stretch in prision.

cynic - 21 Jul 2014 15:24 - 44064 of 81564

sticky - that is total bollocks and you know it full well

if, to the best of your knowledge and having received all reasonable and sensible professional advice, you are acting within the law, then you are no cheat

however, if your adviser "sucked his teeth" when discussing a suggested tax avoidance scheme, then indeed you have only yourelf to blame

you may recollect many years ago when all sorts of people from many walks of life, lost everything when investing in Lloyds' syndicates, which i'm sure was also some sort of tax shelter
they weren't cheats either, and indeed, i recollect that a number of the syndicates were ultimately found to have screwed their investors ..... i don't remember what happened in the end in those cases

TANKER - 21 Jul 2014 15:26 - 44065 of 81564

cancer numbers are get worse not better . if they did something about the high street take aways they would find the answers the junk food is killing the people .
and the government knows and says nothing and happy for this to happen .

goldfinger - 21 Jul 2014 15:26 - 44066 of 81564

Wonder if thier still best of Buddys..... LOL LOL LOL

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