goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 14:44
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About time these Tax dodgers got done. Serves them right. For every penny they havent paid we the tax paying public have had to subsidise them.
Im glad aswel they are paying back far more than they would have paid.
Cant see it doing much for the Tories at the GE though.
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 14:52
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sticky - you really are very judgmental, and unfairly so ...... from what little i have read, the film schemes in particular, have been in existence for a good many years and with nary a squawk (as far as i know) from HMRC
whether or not it is just the leveraging and the degree thereof that has raised flags, i really don't know, and nor do you
if it is this aspect, and it is that that is only of recent development, then the wise and prudent tax advisor should perhaps have raised the potential issue with his client
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 14:59
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Cyners say that again in pure English.
These cheats have been caught its as simple as that.
If they have been made bankrupt thats a matter for them and the person who as introduced them to the dodgy schemes. No doubt their will be court cases.
I for one am applauding HMRC for catching these so called non talented celebrities, may Gary Barlow rot in hell.
Haystack
- 21 Jul 2014 14:59
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Almost all foreign companies pay no tax. You can include Ford, Vauxhall and many foreign car makers, Coca Cola etc. They all use differential pricing methods to put the profit in their country of choice. UK companies do it as well with ICI being just one of them.
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:07
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i'll say it yet again ......
these guys are not cheats, though i know you love to use such unwarranted and inflammatory language
there is nothing wrong at all in avoiding tax, though on a personal level, you may not care for the vehicle used
however, the investors in these schemes will or at least should have been using a top quality tax adviser
if the tax adviser scrutinised well and concluded that the scheme in question and its method of application had been in operation for a good number of years without HMRC raising any flags at all, then it is fully understandable why someone might then have invested
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:15
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They are cheats. No other word to describe them.
They knew they werent paying the correct rate of tax. And if they deny his they are liars aswel.
They have been caught and dont like it.
Tough luck.
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:24
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Jim Harra, director-general of business tax at HMRC, said that the people taking up such schemes are not the “hardworking” majority. “They are the 43,000 affluent people who knowingly signed up to an avoidance scheme in full awareness they were using artificial arrangements to reduce their tax bill. I have no sympathy for these people.”..................................ends
and no neither do I.
In fact they should thank themselves very lucky they arent doing a stretch in prision.
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:24
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sticky - that is total bollocks and you know it full well
if, to the best of your knowledge and having received all reasonable and sensible professional advice, you are acting within the law, then you are no cheat
however, if your adviser "sucked his teeth" when discussing a suggested tax avoidance scheme, then indeed you have only yourelf to blame
you may recollect many years ago when all sorts of people from many walks of life, lost everything when investing in Lloyds' syndicates, which i'm sure was also some sort of tax shelter
they weren't cheats either, and indeed, i recollect that a number of the syndicates were ultimately found to have screwed their investors ..... i don't remember what happened in the end in those cases
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:26
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cancer numbers are get worse not better . if they did something about the high street take aways they would find the answers the junk food is killing the people .
and the government knows and says nothing and happy for this to happen .
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:27
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gold agree with you bankrupt the scum.
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:27
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THEY ARE CHEATS.
MaxK
- 21 Jul 2014 15:29
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goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:29
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REPEAT.......“They are the 43,000 affluent people who knowingly signed up to an avoidance scheme in full awareness they were using artificial arrangements to reduce their tax bill.
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:31
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why would expect a senior officer at HMRC to take any other stance?
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:31
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Yes TANKER scum is a more appropriate word.
Im beginning to think Cynic as had a letter from HMRC he does seem to be defending the SCUM very aggresively.
Shortie
- 21 Jul 2014 15:33
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tax avoidance = fine paid into public purse = money squandered by government
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:34
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not for the first time sticky, you are totally and utterly wrong
personally and clearly very much unlike you and your acolytes, i much prefer to await the courts' verdict after what will undoubtedly be a very complex investigation and argument from both sides
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:34
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takeaway food is killing people .the dyes they put in to their food is poison .
it is time the health minister took action on this rotten cancer food .