goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:31
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Yes TANKER scum is a more appropriate word.
Im beginning to think Cynic as had a letter from HMRC he does seem to be defending the SCUM very aggresively.
Shortie
- 21 Jul 2014 15:33
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tax avoidance = fine paid into public purse = money squandered by government
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:34
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not for the first time sticky, you are totally and utterly wrong
personally and clearly very much unlike you and your acolytes, i much prefer to await the courts' verdict after what will undoubtedly be a very complex investigation and argument from both sides
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:34
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takeaway food is killing people .the dyes they put in to their food is poison .
it is time the health minister took action on this rotten cancer food .
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:37
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They have to pay up front.
Ill settle for SCUMMY CHEATS.
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:38
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ever one should pay their taxes if they try to avoid it says they are crooks and want to rob the country . THEY ARE GREEDY SCUM WHO DO NOT WANT TO PAY THEIR TAX
FULL STOP .
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:39
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IF PEOPLE WANT LIVE IN THE UK THEN PAY YOUR TAX OR GET OUT .
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:42
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what is it that some of you wallies refuse to understand about the difference between tax avoidance and evasion?
if you have a pension scheme, you are avoiding tax, just as you are if you pass assets to your spouse or to your children, in the latter case it being a requirement that you live 7 years after the transfer
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A new food scandal has erupted in China, threatening to tarnish the reputations of McDonald's and Yum Brands.
An American-owned meat factory operating in China has been accused of selling out-of-date and tainted meat to clients including McDonald's (MCD) and Yum Brands (YUM), which owns the KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut chains.
but as no doubt this only affects chinese customers, who on this site cares very much ? :-)
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:48
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A tribunal found in HMRC’s favour against Eclipse 35
Cynic just what dont you understand??????
For god sake a Tribunal as found the tax dodgers to be CHEATS.
Some of these schemes will of course go to a higher court but they are wasting thier time, they have been caught with their hands in the till.
Meanwhile as the dodgers have to pay up in some cases with in 28 to 90 days they will go bankrupt as court cases will be mid 2015.
I say hard luck cheating scumsters you deserve everything you get.
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:48
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cynic . wrong most of these takeaway outlets use sub standard meat and products not fit for human consumption .and have for years and yes I do no . I have seen it with my own eyes would never eat the shit . our children eating these shit will not see 60
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 15:50
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gold . no not hard luck you fcuking cheats time to pay your dues
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 15:57
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sticky - i confess i was unaware that this case had already been through a first tribunal, and that HMRC had first raised flags in 2011
anyway, the attached link is well worth reading and interesting .......
http://www.pannone.com/solicitors-for-business/dispute-resolution/claims-against-financial-advisors/film-partnership
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 15:58
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Stars given 90 days to pay back tax they avoided: Clampdown on celebrity-backed schemes
HMRC will identify the schemes only by their serial numbers
Liberty scheme used by high-profile figures including George Michael, Sir Michael Caine and Katie Melua
Taxman believes more than 33,000 individuals and 10,000 companies are members of the schemes
By JASON GROVES
Thousands of celebrities, sports stars and wealthy professionals will be warned today that they face massive bills following a clampdown on tax avoidance schemes.
HM Revenue and Customs is publishing a list of 1,200 avoidance schemes whose members will be told to pay up within 90 days.
HMRC will identify the schemes only by their serial numbers. However, its list is understood to include the Liberty scheme, reportedly used by a string of high-profile figures including George Michael, Sir Michael Caine and Katie Melua.
Take That: Gary Barlow (left), Howard Donald, Jason Orange and Mark Owen. Barlow, Owen, Donald and their manager Jonathan Wild are reported to have invested some £26million in schemes
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Take That: Gary Barlow (left), Howard Donald, Jason Orange and Mark Owen. Barlow, Owen, Donald and their manager Jonathan Wild are reported to have invested some £26million in schemes
The scheme’s 1,600 members are also believed to include business tycoons, lawyers, doctors and other wealthy individuals.
It was wound up in 2009 when a tax loophole was closed, but a test case relating to members’ tax avoidance is not due to be heard until next year.
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HMRC’s clampdown is also thought to cover the so-called Icebreaker schemes in which Take That’s Gary Barlow, Mark Owen, Howard Donald and manager Jonathan Wild are reported to have invested some £26million.
The taxman believes more than 33,000 individuals and 10,000 companies are members of the schemes being published today.
Between them they owe an estimated £4.9billion – equal to an average of about £114,000 each, although some are thought to owe millions of pounds in tax.
Katie Melua is reportedly part of the Liberty scheme
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Katie Melua is reportedly part of the Liberty scheme
Members of the schemes will not face criminal charges, but letters will demand they make ‘accelerated payments’. Experts warn that this could force some into bankruptcy.
Tory MP Charlie Elphicke last night welcomed the move, saying the rich should be subject to the same tax laws as everyone else.
He said members of the public would have little sympathy for wealthy individuals who had tried to avoid paying their fair share. ‘It is quite right that the Revenue is taking the battle to people who are using their wealth to game our tax system,’ Mr Elphicke said.
‘The behaviour of these people means that hard-working families who do the right thing and pay their taxes have to pay more to support the services we all use.
‘Most people entering these schemes know they are unfair and wrong – they enter these schemes with their eyes wide open.
‘They are taking a gamble on not being caught. What they are doing is unacceptable and wrong.’
The Treasury declined to comment in detail on the individual schemes targeted in the clampdown.
However, failure to make payments demanded by HMRC today could result in criminal charges.
HMRC’s decision to publish the list of schemes follows an announcement in the Budget of new rules to make it easier for the taxman to close avoidance schemes.
Accountancy firms are now required by law to reveal details of schemes that may be viewed as tax -avoidance arrangements.
And instead of pursuing each case through the courts for years, HMRC may now issue demands for immediate payment.
David Elliott, a partner at accountants Moore Stephens, said today’s letters were likely to place some individuals in severe difficulty.
He told Accountancy Age: ‘Receiving a demand to make up-front payment of tax could put some taxpayers under financial strain, and in the very worst cases, could even trigger personal bankruptcies or business insolvencies before the technical merits of the arrangement have been tested.
‘Even a remote prospect of being made bankrupt could mean that taxpayers feel under pressure to settle disputed cases rather than take an appeal to the courts.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2692213/Stars-given-90-days-pay-tax-avoided-Clampdown-celebrity-backed-schemes.html#ixzz387ClDM3V
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goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 16:00
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Tory MP Charlie Elphicke last night welcomed the move, saying the rich should be subject to the same tax laws as everyone else.
He said members of the public would have little sympathy for wealthy individuals who had tried to avoid paying their fair share. ‘It is quite right that the Revenue is taking the battle to people who are using their wealth to game our tax system,’ Mr Elphicke said.
‘The behaviour of these people means that hard-working families who do the right thing and pay their taxes have to pay more to support the services we all use.
‘Most people entering these schemes know they are unfair and wrong – they enter these schemes with their eyes wide open.
‘They are taking a gamble on not being caught. What they are doing is unacceptable and wrong.’
The Treasury declined to comment in detail on the individual schemes targeted in the clampdown.
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 16:01
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‘Most people entering these schemes know they are unfair and wrong – they enter these schemes with their eyes wide open.
‘They are taking a gamble on not being caught. What they are doing is unacceptable and wrong.’
The Treasury declined to comment in detail on the individual schemes targeted in the clampdown.
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 16:01
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shame you swamp everything within 2 seconds of what i think was an interesting post :-)
for those who missed, try
http://www.pannone.com/solicitors-for-business/dispute-resolution/claims-against-financial-advisors/film-partnership
Fred1new
- 21 Jul 2014 16:04
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Cynic,
For god's sake put your hand in Hazy One's pocket and pay your tax and stop avoiding your responsibility.
Both you and Hazy one must have read the same books as the Pute!
goldfinger
- 21 Jul 2014 16:04
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Cheats Cheats Cheats Cheats Scummy Cheats,
cynic
- 21 Jul 2014 16:06
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like you no doubt, i have a pension, but i think no other tax avoidance scheme
TANKER
- 21 Jul 2014 16:07
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why did cynic post when he did not no the facts made him look a plonker