Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Who would you prefer for PM somebody who may be thinking about future policies and being pragmatic, against a windbag like Cameron strutting across the telling the EU what they should be doing and at the same time leaving the club.

Or would you prefer a Jewish Hitler, who has learnt nothing from the history of his own people and is abusing the human rights of those who he and his ancestors were probably derived from.

Question from a journalist to Alastair Cook - "Do you think you are a good captain?" Cook's answer was along the lines of - "Well, you can only do what you can with the players you are given". I'm sure his players must have been delighted to hear that comment. :-)

i pretty much agree with fred about netanyahu, though to be as fair as possible, he is hamstrung by the mish-mash coalition that israel always ends up with, and which always includes an element from the loony right and ultra orthodox

mind you, it cannot be said that hamas are doing much (anything!) to bring this awful conflict to an end

Isn't it Israel who can bring it to an end?

it takes two to tango and neither side looks much interested in peace, and assuredly it would not suit the assorted nefarious outsiders either

Spain’s export-led recovery loses momentum
Spain’s trade deficit is ballooning once again – rising more than 80 per cent in the first five months of 2014 compared to same period last year


and some of you think uk still has serious inherent economic problems?

Cheats cheats cheats scummy cheats.

Hays looks like your wrong............

Guido Fawkes ‏@GuidoFawkes 20m
UKIP on Course for Two MPs According to Ashcroft Poll http://guyfawk.es/1pzuDam

Doods,

I came back to the UK for the weekend so I could go to Lords on Friday. Wish I hadn't bothered now...

i think farage will get elected purely on the basis of his personality and image, but who would be the second?
the next question is, whose or which seats are they forecast to nick, or does the poll not get that specific?

Why should you care about any specific going on your track record.?????

Least of your worries cyners.

i'm just interested, and it would be fun to watch to see if that prediction, so far in advance, is correct
anyway assuredly not the constituency in which i reside!

ah well, that didn't take long to find, as below, but of course they are equally seats that labour would want or even need to win

Lord Ashcroft’s latest constituency polling has UKIP in first place in two Tory held seats where Labour came second in 2010. Thurrock Tory MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who has a majority of just 92 in Thurrock, drops to third on 28%. In first place is UKIP’s Tim Aker, on 36%, well ahead of the Labour candidate, Ed Miliband’s carpet-bagging former SpAd Polly Billington, who is on 30%. Meanwhile in Thanet South, where Farage is expected to run, UKIP are first on 33%, with the Tories and Labour level pegging on 29%. The LibDems are almost wiped out in both constituencies, on 2% and 4% respectively. If Ashcroft is on the money, UKIP will have at least two MPs in 2015. They are not just hurting the Tories, but Labour too…

Well you dont normaly deal in specifics, lets face it yesterday you trotted out 2 pages at least of waffle refering to the Tax Avoidance schemes and had supposedly read the two articles that proceeded your waffle only to come up with this.........

Cynic what a plonker you looked......

cynic 21 Jul 2014 15:57 - 44085 of 44162

sticky - i confess i was unaware that this case had already been through a first tribunal, and that HMRC had first raised flags in 2011

TANKER - 21 Jul 2014 16:07 - 44093 of 44162

why did cynic post when he did not no the facts made him look a plonker

Have to say TANKER made me laugh with that comment......

"it takes two to tango and neither side looks much interested in peace, and assuredly it would not suit the assorted nefarious outsiders either".

No one would disagree but if Israel gave back the land that they have stolen, then that would be a start.

Eclipse 35
a repeat of post 44104, which is worth reading

an excerpt from the link i posted ......

The consequence of a successful HMRC challenge to a film scheme is that investors will lose the ability to offset the ‘loss’ of the partnership loan against their own personal tax liabilities. This means that the tax the investors sought to defer or shelter will then fall due. For most investors this is something that they understood and accepted.

What many investors were not warned about, however, was that they would also then become liable for income tax on the income paid by the film production company to the partnership under the lease agreement. This ‘income’ is of course used to repay the loan part of the investment and is never actually received by the investor.

This leads to a disastrous outcome where investors must pay, not only their own tax which they sought to shelter in the scheme, but also tax (usually at the highest rate) on ‘income’ they have never received.

Essentially, their tax bill could actually exceed their income. This could be financially devastating for many.

As a rough guide, in failed schemes an investor can expect to suffer losses equivalent to about 10 times his cash investment.

Claims against IFAs and Tax Advisors

Due to the complexity of these schemes, most investors sought advice from either or both of their IFAs or their tax advisors. In some cases, these advisors failed to appreciate the potential for a tax liability on partnership income and did not warn the investors of this risk.

Cynic,

Post 44157

I agree with you and Hamas certainly has a responsibility for its actions, but in simplistic terms Israel has abused the Palestinians of human rights in Gaza since the conception of Israel.

Israeli Governments have constantly ignored UN resolutions on Gaza.

Israeli governments had consistently striven to eradicate themselves of their "Palestinian Problems" and the world in general has looked on disregarding the suffering and social development of the Palestinians.


I am not saying that Hamas and the Palestinians are blameless in their actions, but what else can they do in order to get the attention of the world in general.

What is happening is sheer stupidity and unless there is a rethink by the Israeli leadership the bloodshed will continue.

Also, as time carries on the backlash will be greater on the Israelis.
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If you were and Iranian and looked at Israel would you give up your Nuclear arsenal or your rocketry?

Also, do you think the Sunnis are going to be as disorganised as they appear now and stand back from what is happening in Gaza sometime in the future?

As some Jewish leaders believe in "retribution" when they are administrating it, however they may have to suffer the consequences of their own beliefs.

It is crazy!

stan
it is the continued encroachment (annexation) of more and more land by the israelis that shows the contempt in which they hold the opinion of the rest of the world, and in the eyes of israel, the palestinians themselves, rank well below even that

yes, i agree a good proportion of the annexed land should indeed be vacated, though back to what point i am unsure


fred
i fully concur that the manner in which the palestinians are treated is worse than despicable and shows a complete lack of memory of the jews own treatment in poland and similar - i'm sure there must be a better way of putting that


i am equally appalled that, to the best of my knowledge, the leaders of british jewry are deafening in their silence on this whole issue
i actually wrote on this subject to my local rabbi, who is "reform", well-respected and regularly appears on radio and certainly offers excellent advice onthe thorny issue of mixed marriages, but even he never responded

hilary - sympathies ! I didn't know which was worse on Friday, watching the cricket on Sky or listening to Peter Alliss at the Open.