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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 13:50 - 4416 of 6906

ITLOTB
You are typical of the reaction to any criticism of Israel. The first reaction is to say anti-semetic and Nazi, which is what you say constantly with no evidence. Then you attack the person doing the criticism in any way you can think of.

Israel's self supposed belief of strength is also their Achilles heel and ultimate weakness. At some stage and probably over the next year or so there is going to be a major uprising by Palestinians in Gaza and more importantly in the West Bank. When that happens, Israel will over react as usual and disproportionately. That will be the trigger for conflict of a more serious nature bringing in support from outside. It is a time bomb of Israel's making and has been a long time coming and overdue.

US special forces that have entered simialr conflicts have not decimated local populations. Nothing will happen until most countries have removed their own nationals. The Arab League will not be keen on the US going to Lybia as they will see it as another possible Iraq with the forces taking a long time to leave.

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required field - 24 Feb 2011 13:50 - 4417 of 6906

The situation with Tripoli surrounded with Gaddafi's men roaming and badly treating the population would be intolerable and the only solution would be to take out the tanks.....the UN should do this but they are so slow to move...

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 13:55 - 4418 of 6906

The UN is a toothless body. It is no better than the League of Nations that it replaced. They bided too much time over Serbia, Kosovo, Rwanda etc. The trouble is that the UN has no mandate to intervene anywhere they can only act as peace keepers and fire when fired upon in that role. They could authorise Nato or some grouping to intervene. How long could that take - a year maybe?

required field - 24 Feb 2011 14:02 - 4419 of 6906

I wonder if Tripoli would turn into a Stalingrad situation with snipers from both sides everywhere and street battles....shame for Libya if that happens....

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 14:03 - 4420 of 6906

This thread is very widely read even though there are few posters. (Adelaide)

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 14:05 - 4421 of 6906

rf

It could be more like Mogadishu these days as per 'Black Hawk Down'.

required field - 24 Feb 2011 14:06 - 4422 of 6906

Perhaps they could tempt Gaddafi away with a 20% discount card from Harrods ?....just a thought...

required field - 24 Feb 2011 14:07 - 4423 of 6906

Not seen that film......anyway on a serious note....hope for Libya and its people that this is resolved quickly,...another country like Iraq that should be one of the wealthiest on the planet..instead nothing but grief....

In The Land of the B - 24 Feb 2011 14:09 - 4424 of 6906

No, parrot, some of the criticism of Israel, indeed much of it is NOT anti-semitic.
But you are.
I would be the first to agree Israel has, like ALL nation states, made plenty of mistakes and done plenty I disagree with, but your hatred is pathological as anyone bar freddiefewbrains realises from all your obsessive posts.
Remember how you posted saying you refused to be objective - that said it all.
Destroying Israel is all your nazi mind can come up with.
Instead of your armchair fascism why don't you go and put your life on the line in Gaza with your terrorist friends. Do us all a favour LOL

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 14:19 - 4425 of 6906

ITLOTB
No one is objective. there is no such thing. As soon as you have an opinion you are not objective. I have never said I wanted to destroy Israel except as a concept. I want the land to be shared by both sides and be called Palestine, which is what it is. Hamas in Gaza are not terrorists. They are a resistance force, resisting having their land stolen. This would happen anywhere. In the War it was caled the 'French Resistance' and they fought the occupying force. That's just one example. In the West Bank Israel are the occupying force. If anyone is facist then it is Israel.

cynic - 24 Feb 2011 14:20 - 4426 of 6906

No one is objective. there is no such thing .... what utter balderdash!

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 14:32 - 4427 of 6906

Having views about both sides of an argument does not make you objective. I have various views on this subject. some of them are pro israel and some are pro Palestinian. Some are anti both. My overall view is pro Palestinian and anti Israel.

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In The Land of the B - 24 Feb 2011 14:41 - 4428 of 6906

parrot is simply a figure of fun
you can't take someone like that seriously
when he copies and pastes he churns out propaganda
when he makes a gargantuan attempt to say something which he hasn't purloined from elsewhere he just demonstrates how profoundly stupid and ignorant he is
just like a nazi..........

cynic - 24 Feb 2011 14:51 - 4429 of 6906

haystack - you'ld even make a bad politician .... you really do spout utter tripe most regularly, often evading the question and even contradicting yourself from time to time .... just because you may lack the ability to view matters objectively, or even in a balanced manner (almost but not quite the same) please do not presume that others are so debilitated

In The Land of the B - 24 Feb 2011 14:59 - 4430 of 6906

Don't get too sophisticated for him, he thinks a nice distinction is a biscuit that's won a prize.

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 15:00 - 4431 of 6906

I just regard the two posts above as silly attempts to nullify my comments about Israel, so we will have to just differ.

ITLOTB
The use of terms like Nazi just make you seem even more foolish. It is not even worth discussing it. Just the constant use of words like that indicate that you have lost the argument.

In The Land of the B - 24 Feb 2011 15:05 - 4432 of 6906

dream on sweetie
and take the little white ones with a glass of water every four hours and you'll soon feel better

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 15:10 - 4433 of 6906

ITLOTB
You get sillier by the day.

The ex Lybian Justice Minister has just said that Gadaffi has around 25 tons of chemical and bioligical weapons that he will not hesitate to use.

cynic - 24 Feb 2011 15:45 - 4434 of 6906

as i said, you evade ..... your innate problem is a mindset of cement and thus an inability to create balance - indeed, you say or imply that you don't even want to, which is something one expects of a child but not of an intelligent adult - and perhaps therein lies the problem

Haystack - 24 Feb 2011 16:15 - 4435 of 6906

There is no balanced argument in this situation. It is a bit like being mugged and trying to see the situation from the mugger's point of view. That is the province of the justice system and maybe welfare/probation. The last thing the person being mugged needs is a balanced view. Similarly an onlooker would be unlikely to have a balanced view of the situation either and would prefer to see the mugger locked up at the very least.
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