Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2011 13:55
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The UN is a toothless body. It is no better than the League of Nations that it replaced. They bided too much time over Serbia, Kosovo, Rwanda etc. The trouble is that the UN has no mandate to intervene anywhere they can only act as peace keepers and fire when fired upon in that role. They could authorise Nato or some grouping to intervene. How long could that take - a year maybe?
required field
- 24 Feb 2011 14:02
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I wonder if Tripoli would turn into a Stalingrad situation with snipers from both sides everywhere and street battles....shame for Libya if that happens....
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2011 14:03
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This thread is very widely read even though there are few posters. (Adelaide)
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2011 14:05
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rf
It could be more like Mogadishu these days as per 'Black Hawk Down'.
required field
- 24 Feb 2011 14:06
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Perhaps they could tempt Gaddafi away with a 20% discount card from Harrods ?....just a thought...
required field
- 24 Feb 2011 14:07
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Not seen that film......anyway on a serious note....hope for Libya and its people that this is resolved quickly,...another country like Iraq that should be one of the wealthiest on the planet..instead nothing but grief....
In The Land of the B
- 24 Feb 2011 14:09
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No, parrot, some of the criticism of Israel, indeed much of it is NOT anti-semitic.
But you are.
I would be the first to agree Israel has, like ALL nation states, made plenty of mistakes and done plenty I disagree with, but your hatred is pathological as anyone bar freddiefewbrains realises from all your obsessive posts.
Remember how you posted saying you refused to be objective - that said it all.
Destroying Israel is all your nazi mind can come up with.
Instead of your armchair fascism why don't you go and put your life on the line in Gaza with your terrorist friends. Do us all a favour LOL
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2011 14:19
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ITLOTB
No one is objective. there is no such thing. As soon as you have an opinion you are not objective. I have never said I wanted to destroy Israel except as a concept. I want the land to be shared by both sides and be called Palestine, which is what it is. Hamas in Gaza are not terrorists. They are a resistance force, resisting having their land stolen. This would happen anywhere. In the War it was caled the 'French Resistance' and they fought the occupying force. That's just one example. In the West Bank Israel are the occupying force. If anyone is facist then it is Israel.
cynic
- 24 Feb 2011 14:20
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No one is objective. there is no such thing .... what utter balderdash!
In The Land of the B
- 24 Feb 2011 14:41
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parrot is simply a figure of fun
you can't take someone like that seriously
when he copies and pastes he churns out propaganda
when he makes a gargantuan attempt to say something which he hasn't purloined from elsewhere he just demonstrates how profoundly stupid and ignorant he is
just like a nazi..........
cynic
- 24 Feb 2011 14:51
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haystack - you'ld even make a bad politician .... you really do spout utter tripe most regularly, often evading the question and even contradicting yourself from time to time .... just because you may lack the ability to view matters objectively, or even in a balanced manner (almost but not quite the same) please do not presume that others are so debilitated
In The Land of the B
- 24 Feb 2011 14:59
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Don't get too sophisticated for him, he thinks a nice distinction is a biscuit that's won a prize.
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2011 15:00
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I just regard the two posts above as silly attempts to nullify my comments about Israel, so we will have to just differ.
ITLOTB
The use of terms like Nazi just make you seem even more foolish. It is not even worth discussing it. Just the constant use of words like that indicate that you have lost the argument.
In The Land of the B
- 24 Feb 2011 15:05
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dream on sweetie
and take the little white ones with a glass of water every four hours and you'll soon feel better
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2011 15:10
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ITLOTB
You get sillier by the day.
The ex Lybian Justice Minister has just said that Gadaffi has around 25 tons of chemical and bioligical weapons that he will not hesitate to use.
cynic
- 24 Feb 2011 15:45
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as i said, you evade ..... your innate problem is a mindset of cement and thus an inability to create balance - indeed, you say or imply that you don't even want to, which is something one expects of a child but not of an intelligent adult - and perhaps therein lies the problem
cynic
- 24 Feb 2011 16:26
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mindset and cement - enough said as far as i am concerned
In The Land of the B
- 24 Feb 2011 16:30
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Don't be seduced by the hay crap.
Essentially the situation is similar to most in the world where you have two peoples who have claims to the same land. Look at India/Pakistan/Kashmir, Greece/Turkey/Cyprus and a whole host of less well known conflicts.
In the end only division of the land keeps both sides reasonably at peace, and that is what the UN did with the old British mandated lands in 1948. The Arabs never accepted that and the neighbouring Arab countries told the Palestinian Arabs to get out whilst they destroyed Israel. The rest is history and no amount of hysterical screaming and one sided arguments and false analogies from the parrot on a BB or anyone else on the planet makes any difference at all. It's up to the Israelis and the Palestinian Arabs to reach some sort of agreement and the suffering will continue until they do. Both sides have made mistakes and both sides need to make compromises and give up cherished dreams to create a real peace.
The alternatives are an uneasy truce, more wars and even a nuclear holocaust.
Even messier than any of those is the parrot eventually imploding under the weight of his stupifying ignorance and self conceit. At least that is inevitable.....and will be fun to watch.