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"Out of interest does anyone know how far the odds on Wales fell yesterday before the goal"

If you give me the starting odds I can work it out.

Typically the price on Wales would have been steady and England would have drifted as the draw came in during the first half. This would have changed slightly as the second half progressed.

Last odds I saw were 13.5 to back Wales about 3 hours before kick off.

Difficult to estimate in arrears without the draw odds but I reckon the market would have been around these levels in the 54th minute.

11.87 Wales
2.17 The Draw
2.19 England

Almost pulled off an amazing fluke this afternoon. Currently messing around with the new bookmaking feature on Bet Angel and messed things up good and proper (I guess that is what testing is for) had a largely red book other than an outsider which I had over 3k profit if it came in (Don't ask how I achieved that!). Anyhow race goes off and it makes a late charge to get beaten on near the line. So close to a remarkable profit. However I am not tempted to try again..

Ended up with a 3.71 loss but that was the second best scenario, all the others worse. Would have wet myself had that one come in.

scrip did you think at one stage you was going to win the pleasure must have been worth 3.71

LOL! You are right is was worth it.

Seems large payoffs are an accidental consequence of the feature. Newc 16:30 if any of the four rank outsiders come in I will be at least 130 better off and at best 300 with no downside.

scrip

not worth trying to lay off in running ?

Good idea!

Big volume on the Agassi Tennis match this evening.

Big swings on the cricket tonight

Made a bit of a hash of the US Open tennis this evening but managed to escape level. I called every move right, unfortunately in the wrong direction though!

Nice little profit on the U21 Ger v Eng. Backed the draw, greened up after England equalised.

Report on the Federer match last night.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4220814.stm

Anything on that one Scrip?

I was on the Fed match last night. Massive volumes and I got quite nervous waiting for my orders to get filled. At some moments volumes were over 150K per tick and I had no idea where I was in the queue!

Just pleased as a Fed win was what I was looking for.

Looking at the footy tonight, Italy looks good value. They slipped up against the Scots and with Norway breathing down their necks and fav to beat Scotland can't afford to slip up again

Volumes were massive on the Tennis, I don't know if you noticed Bakko but there was somebody throwing around quite a few k a time quite regulary. The volume bars on Bet Angel show those sorts of orders up a treat. It's interesting to watch that activity. I sensed the market was nervous as it was flip flopping quite a bit at the start of each game.

When Federer was almost broken in the third set his price shot right out to 1.30 and I think itchy fingers were at play. From 1.03 at the start of the second set to 1.30 without that critical break was way too much IMHO. I was pretty nervous at that point but backed him in from saving those break points.

Cantor spreadfair have messed up the Azerbaijan v Austria game. Currently the odds and prices are inverted for some reason. Azer are the red hot favourites. You may want to take up some of that. Don't know if they will void or dispute it as it is supposed to be an exchange but definately wrong for sure.

Scrip, You were brave to back Fed at 2 break pts down. Good call!

Re, the massive volumes, there was a guy a couple of weeks back on the forum bragging about his ability to make loads of dosh on a regular basis by backing Fed at low odds with 40K. Looks like he was around. I'm sure the colour of his underwear changed a few times last night!

alot of dangers risking 40000 if there's an injury/retirement.