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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 26 Sep 2009 12:13 - 4427 of 21973

halifax (and others) ...... so is the strategy to sit tight, reduce holdings, or even short? ...... i am inclined to reduce and maybe take a short, either on the indices or on specific stocks

halifax - 27 Sep 2009 12:16 - 4428 of 21973

have reduced some holdings and waiting to see how the Dow future behaves tomorrow, a FTSE short needs a fairly tight stop loss.

HARRYCAT - 28 Sep 2009 16:02 - 4429 of 21973

Amazing. DOW was -27 first thing this morning & now is + 125! FTSE short would have been a brave call halifax! (Easy to say with hindsight ;o) )

halifax - 28 Sep 2009 16:14 - 4430 of 21973

Harry quite right so a tight stop loss worked, are we entering another period of increased volatility?

cynic - 28 Sep 2009 16:20 - 4431 of 21973

i have a small FTSE short still running, more as insurance than anything else ..... if markets slump, then won't do me much good, but the converse is also true!

skinny - 28 Sep 2009 16:23 - 4432 of 21973

cynic - I've just done the same thing for the similar reasons!

jimmy b - 28 Sep 2009 17:10 - 4433 of 21973

Pure Gambling...

skinny - 28 Sep 2009 17:12 - 4434 of 21973

Bet its not :-)

jimmy b - 28 Sep 2009 17:18 - 4435 of 21973

Too volatile ,a bet on the DOW or FTSE going up or down right now is a gamble.
Your just speculating on the run and predicting a fall .

skinny - 28 Sep 2009 17:21 - 4436 of 21973

No - just a bit of hedging on overnight long positions.

jimmy b - 28 Sep 2009 22:44 - 4437 of 21973

Thats why its gambling DOW +124

HARRYCAT - 28 Sep 2009 22:48 - 4438 of 21973

Looks like a load of M&A activity in the U.S. has bolstered the DOW. My guess is the FTSE will follow suit on tuesday but am tempted to watch for a profit taking window later in the week as this mini rally is likley to run out of steam, imo.
Can't fathom where the gold price is now going. Have a few stocks which I bought based on gold going up past the $1000 level & staying there for a while, but not confident I have made the right call.

skinny - 29 Sep 2009 08:21 - 4439 of 21973

jimmy - I've just closed my short +17!

jimmy b - 29 Sep 2009 09:48 - 4440 of 21973

skinny ,while i think a clever trader can beat the market with shares and an investor who does their research can also ,i dont go for the indicies ,some days you can see blue sky ahead but most of the time its gambling ,,especially this morning you were lucky.

skinny - 29 Sep 2009 11:57 - 4441 of 21973

jimmy - I don't often do indicies either. At the point that I took the short, the DOW was already up 125 and the FTSE had had a strong day. I had some positions (trading not investing) that I wanted to keep open and it seemed a reasonable hedge to short the FTSE. Anyway - onwards and upwards!

jimmy b - 29 Sep 2009 13:22 - 4442 of 21973

Where to now ,,,i'm not so sure we're going to have this big slide everyones predicting ,maybe a slowdown or sideways with the odd bad day.

halifax - 30 Sep 2009 15:39 - 4443 of 21973

going down..... how far?

HARRYCAT - 30 Sep 2009 16:07 - 4444 of 21973

Nipped off to play squash & got back to find DOW -104. What caused that to happen?

halifax - 30 Sep 2009 16:08 - 4445 of 21973

poor stats from US.

HARRYCAT - 30 Sep 2009 16:10 - 4446 of 21973

Yep, just seen:
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- "U.S. stocks fell for a second day as an unexpected contraction in a measure of business activity spurred concern the economy is struggling to recover.

American Express Co.,Walt Disney Co. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. dropped more than 2 percent to lead declines in all 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after the Institute for Supply Management-Chicago Inc.s business barometer trailed economists estimates. CIT Group Inc., the 101-year-old commercial lender, tumbled 35 percent on concern it will be forced into bankruptcy. "
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