rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Pure Gambling...

Bet its not :-)

Too volatile ,a bet on the DOW or FTSE going up or down right now is a gamble.
Your just speculating on the run and predicting a fall .

No - just a bit of hedging on overnight long positions.

Thats why its gambling DOW +124

Looks like a load of M&A activity in the U.S. has bolstered the DOW. My guess is the FTSE will follow suit on tuesday but am tempted to watch for a profit taking window later in the week as this mini rally is likley to run out of steam, imo.
Can't fathom where the gold price is now going. Have a few stocks which I bought based on gold going up past the $1000 level & staying there for a while, but not confident I have made the right call.

jimmy - I've just closed my short +17!

skinny ,while i think a clever trader can beat the market with shares and an investor who does their research can also ,i dont go for the indicies ,some days you can see blue sky ahead but most of the time its gambling ,,especially this morning you were lucky.

jimmy - I don't often do indicies either. At the point that I took the short, the DOW was already up 125 and the FTSE had had a strong day. I had some positions (trading not investing) that I wanted to keep open and it seemed a reasonable hedge to short the FTSE. Anyway - onwards and upwards!

Where to now ,,,i'm not so sure we're going to have this big slide everyones predicting ,maybe a slowdown or sideways with the odd bad day.

going down..... how far?

Nipped off to play squash & got back to find DOW -104. What caused that to happen?

poor stats from US.

Yep, just seen:
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- "U.S. stocks fell for a second day as an unexpected contraction in a measure of business activity spurred concern the economy is struggling to recover.

American Express Co.,Walt Disney Co. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. dropped more than 2 percent to lead declines in all 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after the Institute for Supply Management-Chicago Inc.s business barometer trailed economists estimates. CIT Group Inc., the 101-year-old commercial lender, tumbled 35 percent on concern it will be forced into bankruptcy. "

Harry,

You mean the Dow that is now positive??

Short memory about those poor stats !!

TP

Amazing. Finished -29 but a good day for those who trade the index I imagine.

A cautionary note for later in the week from Digitallook:
"Earlier, investors were scared off by the ADP private sector payrolls survey that showed 254,000 private sector jobs disappeared in September. Thats down from a revised 277,000 in August, but worse than the 200,000 expected.

The fear is that this bodes ill for Fridays monthly non-farm payrolls report. About 180,000 jobs are expected to have been lost in September."

Volatility seems to be returning in a big way. Tomorrow looks potentially even more manic with possible break of 9600-9900 range.

Bad day on the DOW so far (-150) & possibly worse to come tomorrow?
Shorters in the ascendency I suppose?

DOW futures currently -23 which is less than I expected, but maybe worse to come. Tricky to know whether to sit tight or try to pick up some bargains before a bounce up:
Bloomberg "Goldman Sachs Group Inc. yesterday said the U.S. economy probably lost more jobs in September than it previously anticipated, citing disappointing economic data including the number of people receiving jobless benefits.

Payrolls probably fell by 250,000 workers last month rather than the 200,000 Goldman Sachs had previously estimated, chief U.S. economist Jan Hatzius said in a note to clients.

Its all to do with non-farm payrolls and if Goldman Sachs are right, then I think the markets cage will be rattled, said David Buik, a London-based market analyst at BGC Partners."

The market looks well and truly stuck to me. The jobs number in 10 mins might well be the impetus to push it violently one way or t'other.