Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

ps, Hays says UKIP wont get a single seat!!!!!!!!!!!! oh yes Hays so what about Nigel himself.

Id say thats a 100% certainty.

gf

You are wrong as usual. The web site you get the majority from is

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

If you look carefully, you will see that it hasn't been updated since 23 July. It doesn't even show Friday's lead of 3 and not today of 1. Their methodology doesn't take account of of specific seats. It just uses an overall average, which I have shown above is wrong.

The state and its spending needs shrinking back.

Talking crap again Hays, I look at that site every day and it was updated the majority figure today. It was a majority of 23 mid week (friday). In fact you say it hasnt been updated since 23rd of July whats this then......................

YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 35, LAB 36, LD 8, UKIP 13
27 JUL 2014


Heres Hays post so that he cant wriggle out of this one as per norm.......

Haystack - 27 Jul 2014 15:11 - 44355 of 44356

gf

You are wrong as usual. The web site you get the majority from is

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

If you look carefully, you will see that it hasn't been updated since 23 July. It doesn't even show Friday's lead of 3 and not today of 1. Their methodology doesn't take account of of specific seats. It just uses an overall average, which I have shown above is wrong........................................ENDS

Hays you really need to be carefull whith those drugs you are taking, are they the same ones IDS takes??????????????? he tells a lot of porkies aswel.

Site below........

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Yes Hays caught out again how anybody can trust you......................well.

I think Max knew that anyway.

Your eyesight is failing you again. If you look down the right hand side you will see the last figures in the overall number is 23 July. They only update the headline figure every few days. It has been 44 since Wednesday. Sometimes they don't update it for more than a week at a time.

This is the most recent item at the top of the table

23 Jul 34 38 8 12 Lab +4

READ YOUR POST ABOVE. 44335.

It was 23 Friday.

Youve been caught out, just like on advfn.

Your taking after the Tory Cheats and liars

This what I wrote

"If you look carefully, you will see that it hasn't been updated since 23 July. It doesn't even show Friday's lead of 3 and not today of 1."

Wednesday was 23 July. It is 27 July today!

But it does show todays lead of 1 its at the very top of the page 27 July 2014, you are either a liar or are intoxicated in some way.

Stop the fudging Hays YOUVE BEEN CAUGHT.

The present fighting in Gaza started because of Hamas's reaction to Israel arresting more than 300 people in their search for three 'kidnapped' Israeli settlers teenagers.

The Israeli government knew the same day that they had been killed and not kidnapped. Their phone call to the police contained gunshots and the car was found with blood in it. They let the Israeli public believe in the kidnapping theory to incite the Israeli public. Then they went house to house in the West Bank arresting more than 300 Hamas supporters. It is not surprising that Hamas responded with rocket fire. Israel took advantage of the incident to start a new war.

Hamas denied the kidnapping and Israel has now admitted that it was not Hamas but a rogue group.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html

The motivation for all this conflict and the escalation is because Hamas and Fatah formed a unity government that represented Gaza and the West Bank. That happened a couple of days before the kidnap. It is the reason why Hamas would not have done the kidnapping because they were trying a non aggressive approach.

The only party to benefit from the kidnap/killing is Israel itself. It makes you wonder if Israel intelligence killed the teens. The other odd thing is why would they be killed? There is nothing to be gained by the killing. The Palestinians have always held people in that situation as they can use them as bargaining chips for prisoner swaps.

gf
It does show the lead of 1, but they did not update the majority figure every day. For some reason the majority figure is usually out of sync with the poll publishing. I think they do it to even out the trends. Otherwise the majority figure would change every day. In fact it changes about once a week.

Fudging again Hays, youve had your ass kicked,the majority was 23 on Friday
it is now 44.

Todays overal figure has been updated taking into account last weeks polls, it is always updated at the weekend.

Everyone can tell youve been telling porkies just by clicking on the link.

Its people like you that get a bad name for the Tories who by in large are very decent people. I myself would probably be voting Tory but not with the Eton crowd in charge lying at every turn and twist.

What a shambles the party is in.

No, it has been 44 for a few days. You can easily see the date it was updated. I will keep a record now so that you can more easily understand.

Your a liar or a drunk.

Youve been caught with your hands in the till.

And Ill be keeping a record now of YOUR posts so that YOU can see how youve lied and you can more easily understand that YOU need help. ......................and very quickly.

Some of the promises the Tories are trying to delete from the internet


Some of the promises the Tories are trying to delete from the internet:

1. No cuts to front-line services.

2. “We have absolutely no plans to raise VAT”.

3. Cameron said “I wouldn’t means-test child benefit”.

4. “No more top-down reorganisations of the NHS”.

5. On Educational Maintenance Allowance (EMA): “We don’t have any plans to get rid of them”.

6. Cameron on Sure Start: “Yes we back Sure Start. It’s a disgrace that Gordon Brown has been trying to frighten people about this”.

7. On the Future Jobs Fund: “We have no plans to change it”.

8. Cameron on green taxes: “[They] need to go up”.

9. Osborne on bank bonuses: “Totally unacceptable”.

10. And finally, Cameron’s commentary on transparency in 2007: “It’s clear to me that political leaders will have to learn to let go. Let go of the information we have guarded so jealously”.

So, it will be won/lost in the marginals, as usual.

The problem is, what do you call a marginal when you can get huge swing votes from people who have had a enough of the present offerings ie. lib/lab/con ?


None of the big three exactly come across as "the real deal"

MaxK - 27 Jul 2014 19:37 - 44370 of 44372

None of the big three exactly come across as "the real deal"

There aren't a big 'three'. The UK operates a two-party system. It might pretend to operate a multi-party system, but it doesn't. It has always operated a two-party system, and it will continue to operate a two-party system all the time that first past the post voting is used. And because a two-party system has been allowed to exist, there now isn't any hope of the constitutional change which would introduce the proportional representation voting which would allow a true multi-party system to develop. It's a Catch 22.

Garage and Clegg can bang on till the cows come home about their political influence, but the simple truth is they have no influence whatsoever. They're both political ideologists who need to smell the coffee and get a grip on reality.

If you don't believe me, try Googling Duverger's law.