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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

HARRYCAT - 28 Sep 2009 22:48 - 4438 of 21973

Looks like a load of M&A activity in the U.S. has bolstered the DOW. My guess is the FTSE will follow suit on tuesday but am tempted to watch for a profit taking window later in the week as this mini rally is likley to run out of steam, imo.
Can't fathom where the gold price is now going. Have a few stocks which I bought based on gold going up past the $1000 level & staying there for a while, but not confident I have made the right call.

skinny - 29 Sep 2009 08:21 - 4439 of 21973

jimmy - I've just closed my short +17!

jimmy b - 29 Sep 2009 09:48 - 4440 of 21973

skinny ,while i think a clever trader can beat the market with shares and an investor who does their research can also ,i dont go for the indicies ,some days you can see blue sky ahead but most of the time its gambling ,,especially this morning you were lucky.

skinny - 29 Sep 2009 11:57 - 4441 of 21973

jimmy - I don't often do indicies either. At the point that I took the short, the DOW was already up 125 and the FTSE had had a strong day. I had some positions (trading not investing) that I wanted to keep open and it seemed a reasonable hedge to short the FTSE. Anyway - onwards and upwards!

jimmy b - 29 Sep 2009 13:22 - 4442 of 21973

Where to now ,,,i'm not so sure we're going to have this big slide everyones predicting ,maybe a slowdown or sideways with the odd bad day.

halifax - 30 Sep 2009 15:39 - 4443 of 21973

going down..... how far?

HARRYCAT - 30 Sep 2009 16:07 - 4444 of 21973

Nipped off to play squash & got back to find DOW -104. What caused that to happen?

halifax - 30 Sep 2009 16:08 - 4445 of 21973

poor stats from US.

HARRYCAT - 30 Sep 2009 16:10 - 4446 of 21973

Yep, just seen:
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- "U.S. stocks fell for a second day as an unexpected contraction in a measure of business activity spurred concern the economy is struggling to recover.

American Express Co.,Walt Disney Co. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. dropped more than 2 percent to lead declines in all 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after the Institute for Supply Management-Chicago Inc.s business barometer trailed economists estimates. CIT Group Inc., the 101-year-old commercial lender, tumbled 35 percent on concern it will be forced into bankruptcy. "

ThePublisher - 30 Sep 2009 19:24 - 4447 of 21973

Harry,

You mean the Dow that is now positive??

Short memory about those poor stats !!

TP

HARRYCAT - 30 Sep 2009 21:55 - 4448 of 21973

Amazing. Finished -29 but a good day for those who trade the index I imagine.

A cautionary note for later in the week from Digitallook:
"Earlier, investors were scared off by the ADP private sector payrolls survey that showed 254,000 private sector jobs disappeared in September. Thats down from a revised 277,000 in August, but worse than the 200,000 expected.

The fear is that this bodes ill for Fridays monthly non-farm payrolls report. About 180,000 jobs are expected to have been lost in September."

Falcothou - 30 Sep 2009 22:34 - 4449 of 21973

Volatility seems to be returning in a big way. Tomorrow looks potentially even more manic with possible break of 9600-9900 range.

HARRYCAT - 01 Oct 2009 16:48 - 4450 of 21973

Bad day on the DOW so far (-150) & possibly worse to come tomorrow?
Shorters in the ascendency I suppose?

HARRYCAT - 02 Oct 2009 10:20 - 4451 of 21973

DOW futures currently -23 which is less than I expected, but maybe worse to come. Tricky to know whether to sit tight or try to pick up some bargains before a bounce up:
Bloomberg "Goldman Sachs Group Inc. yesterday said the U.S. economy probably lost more jobs in September than it previously anticipated, citing disappointing economic data including the number of people receiving jobless benefits.

Payrolls probably fell by 250,000 workers last month rather than the 200,000 Goldman Sachs had previously estimated, chief U.S. economist Jan Hatzius said in a note to clients.

Its all to do with non-farm payrolls and if Goldman Sachs are right, then I think the markets cage will be rattled, said David Buik, a London-based market analyst at BGC Partners."

dealerdear - 02 Oct 2009 13:20 - 4452 of 21973

The market looks well and truly stuck to me. The jobs number in 10 mins might well be the impetus to push it violently one way or t'other.

cynic - 02 Oct 2009 13:37 - 4453 of 21973

stand by for another nasty day in NY, though have just shut my own FTSE short at 4975 ........

Employers shed 263,000 jobs in September - much worse than expected. Unemployment rate rises to 9.8% - highest since 1983.

HARRYCAT - 02 Oct 2009 13:42 - 4454 of 21973

NEW YORK, Oct 2 (Reuters) -" U.S. stock index futures fell further on Friday after government data showed more jobs than expected were lost in September.

S&P 500 futures SPc1 plunged 11.5 points and were below fair value, a formula that evaluates pricing by taking into account interest rates, dividends and time to expiration on the contract. Dow Jones industrial average futures DJc1 dropped 99 points and Nasdaq 100 futures NDc1 lost 13.75 points."

dealerdear - 02 Oct 2009 13:42 - 4455 of 21973

and down we go ...

Interesting, why did you shut your short?

cynic - 02 Oct 2009 13:45 - 4456 of 21973

because my charting guru who uses a very complex and sophisticated system called GANN, reckoned that was a target level a couple of weeks back

to scare you further, he also has a Dow target of 9095

dealerdear - 02 Oct 2009 13:47 - 4457 of 21973

For my sake I hope he is right ..
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