Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Makes it easier for the Olympic photo-shoot......with the prime minister..; team GB turns into TM GB.....

The Irish not happy with Brexit, oh well complaint to Merkel then......

Irish Premier Warns Merkel That Ireland To Be Worst Affected By Brexit
Tue, 12th Jul 2016 14:47

BERLIN (Alliance News) - The island of Ireland would likely be worst affected by the British decision to leave the EU, Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny said after a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Tuesday.

The two leaders discussed the future of European integration, Britain's relationship with Europe after the Brexit as well as Ireland's "unique relationship" with Britain as the country's western neighbour and former colony.

"If Britain has access to the single market, then things will stay very much the same as they are. But that will come at a price," Kenny said, referring to the free movement of people without restriction, which is seen as a quid pro quo in the upcoming Brexit negotiations.

There were also many practical issues to consider for Ireland, Kenny said, pointing out that hundreds of thousands of Irish people living either side of the Irish Sea depended on the British economy for work.

It would be difficult to give an outcome at this stage, he added, but according to "predictive economic papers" Ireland would be the worst-affected country.

Regarding the peace process in Northern Ireland, Kenny said that a lengthy conflict between Catholics and Protestants had left "a very fragile legacy," and efforts to maintain peace and stability in the North had to continue.

"Peace can never be taken for granted," Kenny said. "This is why I keep reminding people of the value of the EU," which he considered as a "peace process in itself."

Merkel meanwhile emphasised the importance of Ireland's voice in the EU and its good relations with Germany. The 27 remaining EU member states would have to discuss the future of the union: "And here the Irish voice will be heard as well as all the others."

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MPs will debate the prospect of a second #EUref https://t.co/Og6QTAF7hr

— Sky News (@SkyNews) 12 July 2016

Brexit impact on commercial property: 1. 30pc of major deals fell through2. £500m of Brexit break clauses activated3. Prices down 10-15%

— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) 12 July 2016

Corbyn Automatically On Leadership Ballot Paper

19:51, UK, Tuesday 12 July 2016



http://news.sky.com/story/corbyn-automatically-on-leadership-ballot-paper-10499847

18-14 in favour Corbyn.

If he wins it will be all out war and probably a split into Labour and the People's Front of Judea. Not sure which will be which.

Tory's heading the same way if not careful.

Somebody up there likes @theresa_may: yesterday no challenger to her; today no parliamentary opposition.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) 12 July 2016

I will certainly be voting for Coryn as I did last time. It is called democracy. I want Corbyn to be leader of Labour, but probably for different reasons to his followers.

Game on I get to Vote.

Trouble is, he wouldn't stay there.

Hays,

You are a clever chap.

Not many would have guessed that.

The recent 100,000 plus new members are barred from voting unless you pay the full £25 over next two days

Will have to have been signed up in February to vote.

If even half of this comes off, there wont be a €uro to argue over.

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/the-eu-question-lies-damned-lies-and-sins-of-omission/

Well retrospective rule changes has stopped me being able to Vote.

Sadly I have had to cancel my direct debit before they can steal my money.

Heyho that is the end of my fun and 1 less votes for Jeremy.

Basically only the people who voted him in last time can vote. Many of those are disillusioned with JC these days.

Opinion: Why Britain is surviving the Brexit backlash and Europe is not

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/brexit-backlash-has-thrown-europe-not-britain-into-crisis-2016-07-12?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp

Merkel admits that inviting migrants has brought terrorists to Europe

Published Jul 11, 2016
Steven_Woolfe.jpegTalking to her CDU party members in East Germany over the weekend, the Chancellor of Germany has finally admitted that her policy of opening the door to over a million migrants had brought terrorists with it. She said, “the refugee flow was even used to smuggle terrorists”

UKIP’s Migration spokesman Steven Woolfe MEP commented: "Angela Merkel has finally admitted what UKIP have been saying for some time that the migrant route last year was exploited by potential terrorists wanting to infiltrate the European continent.

"Merkel's policy of opening Europe's southern border was a monumental mistake that even now many security experts and Europol admit has serious security ramifications for European nations.

"While we must accept refugees in need, allowing a flow of migrants from the Middle East through a borderless Europe has meant many migrants entered unchecked.

"The EU's free movement rule has meant free movement for terrorists and weapons. To ensure security, proper border controls should be reinstated in Europe."