Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Tanker
Don't forget that the founders of Israel were terrorists who blew up British troops when the area was still Palestine. Then they became Prime Ministers and Presidents of Israel. Hamas are only 'terrorists' in relation to Israel. The original Israel also blew up innocent civlians. Unfortunately, that's what freedom fighters do. When and if Palestine become a proper state, these terrorists will be its leaders. Just compare to Northern Ireland, the war of Independence in the US, the pre independence struggles in Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, the Ottoman Empire, Rhodesia, South Africa pre apartheid and India. The list is huge.

Israel has a limited window to talk to Hamas before life gets much worse for them. Hamas now has long rage missiles that are not accurate. The next development is accurate missiles and surface to air weapons. If ISIS get into Gaza, the West Bank and Israel then expect chaos in Israel and the collapse of their society.

I have seen increasing numbers of intelligence reports relating to ISIS targetting Israel.

hays - you are incorrect; please refer to your history books re the original jewish founders and settlers which I think was about 20 years earlier than the official foundation of the state of israel in 1948

I know what you mean, but I am talking about the founding of the state of Israel and not the settlers who were peacefully living in the area. The people I am talking about are Irgun, Haganah, the Stern gang operating from 1945.

Here is a list of some of their work

http://www.timripley.co.uk/terrorism/terrorism1.htm

The leaders of these groups became the leaders of Israel with the last of them going recently.

your initial post was singularly misleading by omission
the original settlers and their arab neighbours too were totally appalled by the subsequent war waged on them by other arabs - I'm sure I'm right - and the IDF or whatever you want to call it, came into being as a result of that

subsequent actions are a different matter entirely, but if you want to put across an argument, you would be wise not be economic with the facts

I was really just showing the transition from terrorist to politician and the hypocrisy of Israel in particular to brand Hamas as terrorists.

A man bought a farmhouse, which had lay vacant for many years, for himself and his wife. There was a bit of a problem in that it came with a barn which was completely welded shut. No one knew what was inside.

He took a chance and bought the Portuguese property at a knock down price and then picked up a grinder to open the barn door....................

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-buys-house-locked-barn-3937043#ixzz38yczCZBN

"US Will Feel Tangible Losses,"

Russia Prepares To Unleash Retaliatory Trade Wars


Tyler Durden on 07/30/2014 12:33 -0400


"It's a troubling continuation/expansion of trade as a geopolitical tool," warns one Washington-based consulting firm as Russia prepares to unleash retaliatory actions to US and European sanctions. As Bloomberg reports, Russia said yesterday it may ban imports of chicken from the U.S. and fruit from Europe and is investigating McDonald's cheese for safety. In addition, a Russian lawmaker has drafted legislation that might result in U.S. accounting firms being barred from doing business in his country. All of this is odd given Jack "trust me" Lew's reassurance that Russian sanctions would have no impact on the US economy. Russia's response, US will feel 'tangible losses' from 'destructive, myopic' sanctions.



more:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-30/us-will-feel-tangible-losses-russia-prepares-unleash-retaliatory-trade-wars

Ed Miliband's shadow cabinet sound like they are giving postgraduate lectures, Frank Dobson says

The former Labour Health Secretary, who is stepping down at the election, warns the inner circle of the party's leader are 'useless'






6:41PM BST 30 Jul 2014





Ed Miliband’s inner circle are “useless” and his shadow cabinet are only capable of delivering “postgraduate lectures” instead of simple policies voters can understand, a former Labour cabinet minister has said.


Asked if those closest to the Labour leader are useless Frank Dobson, the former Secretary of State for Health, agreed enthusiastically before clarifying that “not of sufficient quality and clarity” was a more accurate description.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11001189/Ed-Milibands-shadow-cabinet-sound-like-they-are-giving-postgraduate-lectures-Frank-Dobson-says.html

The @YouGov monthly average Jan 2013 - June 2014.



You have to bare in mind out of all the pollsters YouGov have Labours lead as the lowest of all pollsters, BUT what really doesnt stack up here and is the major finding, all this twaddle we have heard that UKIP are falling apart Hays and fellow Tories........total rubbish, in fact they have got stronger over the last few months.

JULY 30TH, 2014

Osborne Hooker Arrested After Tweeting “Off His Trolley” Photo

Two days ago Natalie Rowe, the former dominatrix who claims to have done cocaine with Osborne, tweeted this previously unseen photo of a young George:



She tweeted below........

Natalie Rowe @RealNatalieRowe

Osborne reckons that he BARELY knew me, here he is in my flat, off his trolley, a client looks on,who looks a plonker!!!!
6:33 PM - 28 Jul 2014

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys
Great News for Hard Working People, Inflation has risen by 14.5% since 2010... while your wages have gone back to 2002 levels #votetory

The table above shows the trend going away from Labour. UKIP will crash and burn.

ha ha ha he he he ho ho ho ho.

Labour just need a 9% UKIP GE share and they are home and dry.

Hays you have again like your leader been telling porkies.

Naughty naughty boy.

You should apologise to Max for misleading him, though I suspect Max knew all along you were a fantasy merchant.

Osborne has the autumn budget adjustment event and a real budget just before the GE. Plenty of scope for a few feel good giveaways.

Come the election everything will return to good order. UKIP will collapse, the Libs will rise again. Labour will show themselves as bufoons and Cameron will win.

LOL, brilliant one Max.

Comment article on the MH17 shoot down

http://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=21534419&from=13142

hay, you are a simpleton as for the uk giving 10m to feed these lay terroristsis a dam disgrace let them starve . ukip will not go away ever one I know us voting ukip
and we are life long tories

TANKER - 31 Jul 2014 07:56 - 44494 of 44494
hay, you are a simpleton

Why do the words 'pot', 'kettle' and 'black' spring to mind?