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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 12 Jul 2016 20:01 - 4452 of 12628

18-14 in favour Corbyn.

If he wins it will be all out war and probably a split into Labour and the People's Front of Judea. Not sure which will be which.

MaxK - 12 Jul 2016 20:03 - 4453 of 12628

Tory's heading the same way if not careful.

Haystack - 12 Jul 2016 20:05 - 4454 of 12628

Somebody up there likes @theresa_may: yesterday no challenger to her; today no parliamentary opposition.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) 12 July 2016

Haystack - 12 Jul 2016 20:12 - 4455 of 12628

I will certainly be voting for Coryn as I did last time. It is called democracy. I want Corbyn to be leader of Labour, but probably for different reasons to his followers.

Martini - 12 Jul 2016 20:16 - 4456 of 12628

Game on I get to Vote.

MaxK - 12 Jul 2016 20:57 - 4457 of 12628

Haystack - 12 Jul 2016 20:58 - 4458 of 12628

Trouble is, he wouldn't stay there.

Fred1new - 12 Jul 2016 20:59 - 4459 of 12628

Hays,

You are a clever chap.

Not many would have guessed that.

Haystack - 12 Jul 2016 21:13 - 4460 of 12628

The recent 100,000 plus new members are barred from voting unless you pay the full £25 over next two days

Will have to have been signed up in February to vote.

MaxK - 12 Jul 2016 21:37 - 4461 of 12628

If even half of this comes off, there wont be a €uro to argue over.

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/the-eu-question-lies-damned-lies-and-sins-of-omission/

Martini - 12 Jul 2016 22:13 - 4462 of 12628

Well retrospective rule changes has stopped me being able to Vote.

Sadly I have had to cancel my direct debit before they can steal my money.

Heyho that is the end of my fun and 1 less votes for Jeremy.

Haystack - 12 Jul 2016 22:18 - 4463 of 12628

Basically only the people who voted him in last time can vote. Many of those are disillusioned with JC these days.

jimmy b - 13 Jul 2016 08:17 - 4464 of 12628

Opinion: Why Britain is surviving the Brexit backlash and Europe is not

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/brexit-backlash-has-thrown-europe-not-britain-into-crisis-2016-07-12?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp

jimmy b - 13 Jul 2016 08:24 - 4465 of 12628

Merkel admits that inviting migrants has brought terrorists to Europe

Published Jul 11, 2016
Steven_Woolfe.jpegTalking to her CDU party members in East Germany over the weekend, the Chancellor of Germany has finally admitted that her policy of opening the door to over a million migrants had brought terrorists with it. She said, “the refugee flow was even used to smuggle terrorists”

UKIP’s Migration spokesman Steven Woolfe MEP commented: "Angela Merkel has finally admitted what UKIP have been saying for some time that the migrant route last year was exploited by potential terrorists wanting to infiltrate the European continent.

"Merkel's policy of opening Europe's southern border was a monumental mistake that even now many security experts and Europol admit has serious security ramifications for European nations.

"While we must accept refugees in need, allowing a flow of migrants from the Middle East through a borderless Europe has meant many migrants entered unchecked.

"The EU's free movement rule has meant free movement for terrorists and weapons. To ensure security, proper border controls should be reinstated in Europe."

Haystack - 13 Jul 2016 10:17 - 4466 of 12628

France slams UK tax-cut plan as Hollande plans post-Brexit EU tour

France's finance minister on Monday slammed a British plan to slash corporation taxes to keep businesses in the UK after Brexit and President François Hollande announced he would embark on a mini-tour of five European countries to revive confidence in the European Union.

"You don't get out of a problem you've got yourself into by making announcements like this," French Finance Minister Michel Sapin commented on British Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne's statement last week that he would cut the UK's corporation tax rate to 15 percent.

It currently stands at 20 percent and the reduction would bring it close to Ireland's, which is 12.5 percent, and way below France's (33.3 percent) and Germany's (29.72 percent).

France courts City business

French ministers have launched a charm offensive to attract companies tempted to leave the City of London following the leave vote in the UK's recent referendum.

"By the way, I'm not at all sure that it's a good thing for Great Britain to respond to a problem of credibility and financial attractiveness by fiscal measures," Sapin warned, although he said he was in favour of France reducing its tax rate to the European average of 28 percent.

The pro-leave candidate for the leadership of Britain's ruling Conservative Party, Andrea Leadsom, pulled out of the race on Monday, leaving the way clear for Home Secretary Theresa May to succeed David Cameron as prime minister.

"Brexit means Brexit and we're going to make a success of it," May declared earlier in the day, despite having campaigned for a remain vote in the referendum.

Hollande on post-Brexit mini-tour

Hollande's office announced Monday that he would visit five EU countries next week as part of an effort to revive confidence in the EU following the blow from the British vote.

He will visit Portugal on 19 March, then go on to the Czech Republic, Austria and Slovakia, before finishing up in Ireland on 21 July.

Hollande intends to "give a new impetus to the Europe of 27" along the lines discussed with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi in a meeting they held after the British referendum result became clear.

They intend to make proposals, particularly on "defence, growth, jobs and competitivity" according to Hollande, to an EU summit in Bratislava in September.

Portugal 'doesn't deserve' sanctions

An EU ministers' meeting on Tuesday will decide whether to impose sanctions on Portugal and Spain for failing to meet targets on debt reduction.

While admitting that they would be within their rights to do so, Sapin commented that Lisbon "doesn't deserve" to be punished, since it had made "enormous efforts over the last few years" and been forced to rescue the Banif bank last December.

So far as Spain is concerned, "the problem is knowing who to discuss with and who can make commitments" following two inconclusive elections, Sapin said.

cynic - 13 Jul 2016 10:52 - 4467 of 12628

France slams UK tax-cut plan
well tough!

Haystack - 13 Jul 2016 11:06 - 4468 of 12628

Exactly

Haystack - 13 Jul 2016 11:09 - 4469 of 12628

This is one of the problems with the EU. They are heading towards unified tax regimes where the ECB will also set individual budgets for each country (state).

grannyboy - 13 Jul 2016 11:18 - 4470 of 12628

Frau Merkel might now be regreting her stupid open door welcome to untold
millions of immigrants..But it will be on her head if there is any terrorist carnage
that's carried out in Europe!...

Haystack - 13 Jul 2016 11:56 - 4471 of 12628

4 of the last 8 PMs took over without a General Election: Callaghan, Major, Brown and now May
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