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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 28 Feb 2011 08:36 - 4455 of 6906

you will note that my initial post, which you predictably choose/chose to deride, was both balanced and UNprovocative ..... the second was intentional and patently effective in its effect

as usual, anyone who doesn't agree with you or haystack (i often disagree strongly with views expressed by others too) is, in your eyes, automatically "naive, narrow minded and unpleasant"

Fred1new - 28 Feb 2011 09:22 - 4456 of 6906

No.

But, but you are a special case.

cynic - 28 Feb 2011 10:40 - 4457 of 6906

certainly i am happier to march to my own tune rather than just follow the herd

Haystack - 28 Feb 2011 13:29 - 4458 of 6906

Haven't you noticed that the BBC is frequently pro Palestinian and often more so than Al Jazeera.

cynic - 28 Feb 2011 13:53 - 4459 of 6906

i merely observed, primarily to enable people to try to get a balanced view as what might truly be happening.

as for BBC, you may well be right for i only see AJ when i am in m/e ...... far be it from me to say BBC is other than strictly impartial, but certainly the tories have often complained that BBC is left-wing biased, and assuredly many UK gov'ts have been distinctly pro-arab or even anti-israel/jews

fahel - 28 Feb 2011 14:03 - 4460 of 6906

Public Diplomacy 2 0 Jim Glassman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyyqAZKa8Cw

Undersecretary for Public Diplomacy James Glassman in the AUC Virtual Newsroom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VjNM1spIow&feature=related

Public Diplomacy 2.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NU4d81Ps4&feature=related


Gausie - 28 Feb 2011 15:49 - 4461 of 6906

fahel - I like the first video - where liebman from movements.org is interviewed. I approve of the article on the front page of his website (www.movements.org)

ahoj - 28 Feb 2011 16:31 - 4462 of 6906

Cynic, I hope they are not just following money.

The best option for the West is to watch the Arab countries to change! (fight internally and destroy their resources). They have to sell oil to pay for the damage after all!

Supporting anyone in the conflict can be counter productive, so keeping quiet is the best option.

cynic - 28 Feb 2011 17:34 - 4463 of 6906

i'm thick .... who following what money and which conflict are you talking about?

Haystack - 28 Feb 2011 19:03 - 4464 of 6906

It looks like Sukey works when the protestors are non violent. If there is any violence then they will still get kettled.

Gausie - 28 Feb 2011 19:08 - 4465 of 6906

Haystack - you don't get it - but then I don't expect you to.

Haystack - 28 Feb 2011 20:22 - 4466 of 6906

If demonstrators stick to agreed routes/ timetable and don't involve in violence then they don't need to worry about being kettled by the police. The last time kettling was used it was in response to violence that had started 1 1/2 hours ealrlier. I doubt that Sukey will stop kettling if violence is involved. The use of police helicopters above marches can respond fast enough to contain problem areas. The use of teh app is supposed to reduce tensions and remove the need for kettling. Kettling is used in response to violent demonstrators and anarchists.

Gausie - 01 Mar 2011 01:02 - 4467 of 6906

lol.

Haystack - 01 Mar 2011 06:32 - 4468 of 6906

You may laugh, but kettling has only happened in response to violence.

cynic - 01 Mar 2011 07:29 - 4469 of 6906

is kettling when protesters get boiled in oil, or is it griddled in a BBQ?

aldwickk - 01 Mar 2011 09:37 - 4470 of 6906

Cynic letting off steam

cynic - 01 Mar 2011 10:48 - 4471 of 6906

rarely that agitated, though often plenty of hot air!

yuff - 01 Mar 2011 12:13 - 4472 of 6906

Nice-I dont think!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4&feature=related

Haystack - 01 Mar 2011 12:53 - 4473 of 6906

And the radical Rabbis demonise the Arabs. It is not the Jews who do this and it is not the Arabs. It is some of the radical leaders. I say 'some', because the average Jew and Arab are not like this. It is possible to find Youtube items of Rabbis spouting hate as well, saying that Arabs are not human and a thousand Arab lives are not worth one Jew. There are Rabbis who say that Israel should kill as many Arabs as possible. The propaganda is the same on both sides.

cynic - 01 Mar 2011 13:21 - 4474 of 6906

for once i fully concur
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