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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

dealerdear - 02 Oct 2009 13:47 - 4457 of 21973

For my sake I hope he is right ..

HARRYCAT - 02 Oct 2009 14:35 - 4458 of 21973

Although 4975 was a target then, surely with a projected drop of another 410 points on the DOW there is very likely to be more downside on the FTSE??? Or am I being more dense than usual?

cynic - 02 Oct 2009 14:39 - 4459 of 21973

i would have thought so, but i was just following instructions for once!
anyway, was quite happy to bank a useful profit

there's usually a weekly update, so i'll try to remember to post the conclusions here

Stan - 02 Oct 2009 15:19 - 4460 of 21973

Today's news might already be priced in, but more bad news + some weekend profit taking and some more shorting will probably end in another down day both sides of the water.. interesting day.. so far.

Fred1new - 02 Oct 2009 15:52 - 4461 of 21973

Stan,
May be of interest to you. A bit painful to me earlier on.

*8-)

cynic - 02 Oct 2009 16:01 - 4462 of 21973

not exactly champagne time is it, though it is good to see Dow staging a strong(ish) recovery ... it'll be interesting to see where it finishes tonight

cynic - 02 Oct 2009 16:30 - 4463 of 21973

despite Dow's strong recovery (now only -11 after -115), FTSE hardly recovered at all and has closed just below 5000.
it therefore looks to me that uk investors were too scared to follow suit lest Dow collapses later on ...... it (almost) follows that if Dow now holds these much better positions, then FTSE could recover sharply on monday

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and as can watch sporadically during evening, have married money and mouth

required field - 02 Oct 2009 19:06 - 4464 of 21973

To play the markets : you buy when everybody takes to the hills.....we know the economies are in a recession....but barring more banking troubles should recover unless Iran or North Korea...I still think that there should be an end of year increase with a stabilisation in the new year for a few months....all shall be revealed in the months ahead.

Falcothou - 03 Oct 2009 20:39 - 4465 of 21973

9400 is 50 day moving average according to investor's chronicle so a point of support. Nikkei seems the most oversold of the indices that I can see though yen has not helped

HARRYCAT - 06 Oct 2009 16:29 - 4466 of 21973

The doom merchants are at it again, or maybe just over zealous journalists trying to earn a crust! :
Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Reverse mortgages may be the next subprime crisis, according to the National Consumer Law Center.

Some of the same U.S. lenders that helped drive the real estate boom with loans to home buyers who couldnt afford the payments are now targeting seniors, the center said. Brokers, who are given financial incentives to sell the loans, may be making misleading claims to potential customers, according to a report titled "Subprime Revisited, that was released today by the Boston-based NCLC.

This market is designed to serve seniors, so when we find abuses cropping up and migrating from the subprime market to the senior market, that sounds an especially loud warning bell, said Rick Jurgens, an advocate at the National Consumer Law Center, who contributed to the report.

Reverse mortgages enable people aged 62 and over who are looking for extra cash to use the equity in their homes and receive lump-sum payments, periodic checks, a line of credit, or a combination of the three. Lenders are repaid from the sale of the home when the borrowers die or move. "

ThePublisher - 06 Oct 2009 19:37 - 4467 of 21973

" Reverse mortgages enable people aged 62 and over who are looking for extra cash.......Lenders are repaid from the sale of the home when the borrowers die or move."

As someone who periodically looks at this facility (we have no offspring and aim to go to our graves the hour after we spent our last oncer) I am fascinated by the size of the lifebelt margin the providers require.

I cannot imagine any of the lenders I have looked at getting within a mile of negative equity.

Yet another case of morbid journalism.

TP

HARRYCAT - 08 Oct 2009 20:31 - 4468 of 21973

Without wishing to tap into a confidential source, Cynic, what is your GANN Guru's stance on the 9095 target (DOW) now that we are heading back to the 10000 level again? Does he see this as just a blip up, or another push to new highs?

cynic - 08 Oct 2009 20:34 - 4469 of 21973

i'll have to check tomorrow .... stuff's at the office

cynic - 09 Oct 2009 09:51 - 4470 of 21973

i only get a weekly update from "guru", but on Dow he said

"currently 9600 ..... stay short with a target of 9095 ..... lower the stop-loss so as to trigger on any rise above 9850"

Dow certainly hit 9830 last night, and just possibly spiked above that

HARRYCAT - 09 Oct 2009 09:59 - 4471 of 21973

Cheers. Brave call to go short, imo, but I quite often find it difficult to see the 'bigger picture', so he's probably right.

skinny - 09 Oct 2009 09:59 - 4472 of 21973

High last night was 9836.52!

halifax - 09 Oct 2009 16:01 - 4473 of 21973

US banks reporting season starts next week, should stir up the market.

Falcothou - 10 Oct 2009 14:53 - 4474 of 21973

If they are still using the Enron school of accounting, they should blast through expectations

HARRYCAT - 11 Oct 2009 11:15 - 4475 of 21973

Yes, according to the w/e FT the quarterly update on earnings performance in the U.S. is probably set to drive the U.S. indices higher, though with the usual volatile days.
"For the next few weeks U.S. companies earnings are bouyed by the weak dollar and they will probably deliver the hoped for positive 'surprise' which will keep stocks rolling along'.

HARRYCAT - 12 Oct 2009 23:41 - 4476 of 21973

Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, IBM, Intel, Johnson & Johnson, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and General Electric will all report later this week.
Will be interesting to see how many of the big boys bring in results better than anticipated.
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