goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 04 Aug 2014 07:41
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rewards to doctors for proscribing
clearly doctors are at last being rewarded for preventative advice :-)
MaxK
- 04 Aug 2014 07:48
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Nick Clegg to call for tighter controls on immigration from new EU states
Lib Dem leader's intervention means all the major parties will be competing to prove they would reduce immigration from EU
Rowena Mason, political correspondent
The Guardian, Monday 4 August 2014

Nick Clegg's speech will mark a significant change in tone for the deputy prime minister. Photograph: Dan Kitwood/Getty Images
Nick Clegg will call this week for much tighter controls on immigration from new EU states, as people have lost faith in the government's assurances following the arrival of 60,000 Bulgarians and Romanians.
In a significant change of tone, the Liberal Democrat leader and deputy prime minister said immigrants from new EU countries should not be allowed to move to other member states by registering as self-employed during the transitional period of up to seven years when restrictions are in place. He will also suggest giving member states the right to "put the brakes on" immigration from new EU countries beyond the transitional controls "if people begin arriving in numbers too big for our society to absorb successfully".
"Is it any wonder, when people have been repeatedly told one thing only to then see another, that so many have lost faith in government's ability to manage the flow of migrants from new EU states?" he will say.
more unbelievable rubbish here:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/04/nick-clegg-tighter-controls-immigration-new-eu-states
Fred1new
- 04 Aug 2014 08:42
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MaxK
- 04 Aug 2014 12:01
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Fred1new
- 04 Aug 2014 13:39
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He is incapable of seeing the wood from the trees without the help of a PR man.
goldfinger
- 04 Aug 2014 16:04
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Interesting comment on statins here.
More or less mirrors articles Ive been reading on goggle. 50/50.
Mind if I dont take them my GP will certainly be ackward towards me in the future.
They all same to be the same, above the average person in the street.
Fred1new
- 04 Aug 2014 16:53
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GF.
No.
The problem of "fats" are B.complicated.
The problem short and long term or chronic are deleterious.
Statins and other more specific drugs have been a godsend and save many from strokes and coronaries of people and in their 40s, 50s and 60s.
The 10% rise in B, sugar is b.irrelevant.
Drink less beer.
A sensible GP etc. will monitor blood levels for problems and change treatment if necessary.
The biochemistry of Diabetes and associated hypertension is complex, but you try explaining the economy and charting to the average GP 20 times a day and you would be pissed off.
(Also, like some car mechanics they know what to do to repair a car engine but not the molecular structure of petrol. Sometimes the more practical are more useful than the theoretician.)
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I started taking variable forms of Blood Lipid "correctives" about 30 + years ago and probably in spite of the hopes of many, I am still alive and reasonably fit, whereas some members of my family are deceased.
Good luck!
goldfinger
- 04 Aug 2014 17:33
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Fred and all cheers.
Thanks for the feed back.
Im now looking for Ashcrofts poll.
goldfinger
- 04 Aug 2014 17:37
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Ashcroft National Poll: Con 30%, Lab 33%, Lib Dem 8%, UKIP 18%, Green 6%
Monday, 4 August, 2014 in The Ashcroft National Poll
ANPLineGraph
By Lord Ashcroft
Labour lead by three points in this week’s Ashcroft National Poll, conducted over the past weekend. Vote shares were Labour 33% (down one point on last week), Conservatives 30% (down two), Liberal Democrats 8% (down one), UKIP 18% (up four) and the Greens unchanged on 6%...........................ends
UKIP increasing thier share.................
MaxK
- 04 Aug 2014 19:03
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The problem with that scenario EL is.....
1. Cameroon doesent want to leave the €U, and has said so, undermining his position before he starts.
2. I think people who took the decision to vote UKIP at the €uro elections can see through his spin.
3. In any case, Millibum is the tories and UKIP's secret weapon. All he's offering is more of the same.
Fred1new
- 04 Aug 2014 20:11
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Exec,
Present an ultimatum to me and it is quite likely I will tell you to ---- off.
The Europeans are feeling that way about the UK and its continuing about "what is in it for me" rather than "what is in it for Europe" mentality!
How much of our trade goes through Europe.
How much of our Europe's trade goes through the UK.
Laughable, Cameron telling Putin or the Netty off, we are and are becoming less significant as a "world power" and because of population size will decrease in economic and military significance further.
We need Europe, Europe doesn't need us.
Remember WW2. Many thanked God for the USA.
cynic
- 04 Aug 2014 20:19
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fred knows all, or so he writes
Fred1new
- 04 Aug 2014 20:34
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About somethings a bloody sight more than you!
cynic
- 04 Aug 2014 20:41
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so you keep telling everyone and writing as if you are at the right hand of God, and even have his ear - poor chap if you do; it must be worse than a severe case of tinnitus
Haystack
- 04 Aug 2014 20:51
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A quiz question for you.
Which Prime Minister did not have English as his first language.
cynic
- 04 Aug 2014 20:56
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i'ld hazard a complete guess at disraeli
MaxK
- 04 Aug 2014 21:09
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Heath.
Stan
- 04 Aug 2014 21:12
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Is this a serious question H/S?