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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Shortie - 06 Aug 2014 13:48 - 44658 of 81564

I think the mans a raging idiot, a clown at best most of the time and yet he's tipped to lead the Tory party.... I suppose one more clown MP running the country can't do much harm!

goldfinger - 06 Aug 2014 14:04 - 44659 of 81564

Take votes off labour.........LOL......... hes the best thing to happen to labour since this coalition crew got in.

The truth is Camoron and Boris detest each other.

Haystack - 06 Aug 2014 14:05 - 44660 of 81564

He is someone who likes to project a clown image. I have been to the London assembly to watch the Mayor's question time. He is awsome in his grasp of all the issues. The Labour opposition tried everything to trip him up on all sorts of areas. They never laid a glove on him. When he behaves in a serious way he is hard to beat.

ExecLine - 06 Aug 2014 14:09 - 44661 of 81564

He is most certainly not a raging idiot and he is an exceptionally intelligent man. He can hold and keep an excellent grip on a multitude of different elements.

He does have eccentric ways to the extreme, as illustrated by his unruly hair and dress sense.

Would he make a good leader?

I think he would. I don't think he is a grabbing bastard. I don't think he is power potty. He does want to do a good job and has a common sense approach to spending large sums of money. He can't be bullied into doing things. He is very popular and is quite Churchillian.

He certainly headed up a brilliant Olympic Games project.

If Labour should win the next election, Boris would be utterly brilliant in opposition. Also one would suppose, that if they were to defeat Cameron and the Tories, then Cameron would step down and Boris would be 'a natural' to take over the leadership.

He does a bloody good job as the Mayor of London too. For an example, just take a trip on the London Underground. It used to be an utter shambles but it isn't now. And it's the same with the London Buses too. You can feel quite proud about how good they are these days.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2014 14:20 - 44662 of 81564

The present con party is a party of clowns, similar to many of its camp followers.

Good to see Hazy has seen the light is now expecting a con party loss at next G/E and expecting Boris prepared to lead the a party of losers!


Unfortunately, I don't think Boris is a "fool", but I do wonder what he sees in being leader of a rag bag of a team, perhaps one should follow the money trail more closely.

MaxK - 06 Aug 2014 14:26 - 44663 of 81564

Whats really needed is Boris before the next GE.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2014 14:28 - 44664 of 81564

The last thing I would like is a Boris before or before an election.

The thought makes me tremble.

Haystack - 06 Aug 2014 14:33 - 44665 of 81564

You won't get Boris before the GE. He won't show any ambitious signs until there is a leader contest. It is why Hessltine did not become leader. He was perceived as disloyal to Maggie and that was the kiss of death. Boris knows his history too well. Boris doesn't like losing. He won't make a move until he knows he has a good chance of winning.

ExecLine - 06 Aug 2014 14:35 - 44666 of 81564

Boris Johnson's EU reform list for Cameron to stop him voting for exit
by Rowena Mason Aug. 6, 2014

Boris Johnson has presented David Cameron with a shopping list of EU reforms that would be needed to stop him from voting for a British exit.

The London mayor said he would campaign to stay in the EU if Britain was able to manage migration, repatriate home affairs, social and environmental legislation, scrap the common agricultural policy, and annul the commitment to ever closer union in the treaty of Rome.

Launching a report on the issue, Johnson said the best option would be for Britain to stay in a reformed EU but leaving would also come an "attractive" close second.

The report, written by his chief economic adviser, Gerard Lyons, sets out clearly that it would be best for the UK to stay in the EU. It also warns that the shock of leaving "cannot be overestimated" and could seriously harm the City of London.

"There would be some considerable uncertainty," the report said. "Some may view it as a liberating experience and be positive from the start but the likelihood is that the bulk of the economic, business and financial community would view it as a great unknown. For many aspects of the London economy, the day after any no decision in the referendum would be little different in economic terms from before, especially for those focused on the domestic economy. The financial market impact, however, could be very different."

Johnson acknowledged that there could be a "scratchy" period of uncertainty for three to five years if Britain chose to leave. But he said he believed that this was surmountable and argued there was no need to be scared about leaving.

"The whole EU question is no longer as pivotal to our future as it was," he said.

Johnson insisted that both his "head and heart" told him it was better for the UK to stay in a significantly reformed EU after a referendum. However, he also made it clear he considered the reforms he was demanding ambitious.

This became apparent when Peter Wilding, the director of British Influence – a group campaigning for the UK to stay in – told him seven out of the eight recommendations in the Lyons report were already favoured by the leadership of the European Commission.

But Johnson said he did not believe any of his proposed reforms had been agreed and he did not think the negotiations Cameron is to undertake would be easy.

"I suspect, if I may humbly suggest, perhaps it is not going to be quite as simple as that," he told Wilding. "If we can knock out social and environmental legislation, if we can knock out the common agricultural policy, if we can repatriate powers over global justice and home affairs, if we can manage migration ourselves, if we can genuinely complete the single market in services, then maybe, maybe we're going to win this argument. In which case, I would be all too happy to campaign for a yes.

"Which, by the way, shows the wisdom of David Cameron in leading this argument. How curious it is, therefore, my friends, to hear from some of the gloomy-doom-poppers that we'll never get a deal, that Britain hasn't got a hope… And now you're telling us this morning that it's virtually a done deal, well that's fantastic news if it's true."

Johnson also said he wanted a clear timetable for reform of the EU, which Cameron has not set out so far.

Taken from: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/06/boris-johnson-david-cameron-eu-reform-list-stop-vote-exit

MaxK - 06 Aug 2014 15:17 - 44667 of 81564

Whats a done deal?



"Which, by the way, shows the wisdom of David Cameron in leading this argument. How curious it is, therefore, my friends, to hear from some of the gloomy-doom-poppers that we'll never get a deal, that Britain hasn't got a hope… And now you're telling us this morning that it's virtually a done deal, well that's fantastic news if it's true."

ExecLine - 06 Aug 2014 15:42 - 44668 of 81564

Which seven out of which eight?

This became apparent when Peter Wilding, the director of British Influence – a group campaigning for the UK to stay in – told him seven out of the eight recommendations in the Lyons report were already favoured by the leadership of the European Commission.

ExecLine - 06 Aug 2014 15:45 - 44669 of 81564

Here they are:

In the Lyon's “The Europe Report: A win-win situation” the case for reform is made as being clearly in the long term interest of the EU as well as the UK. The reforms that are needed include:

• Accepting the case for economic reform: This makes the case for unlocking the barriers to growth both in the UK and EU in order to boost innovation, investment and competitiveness. The poor economic performance and weakness of demand suffered by the EU would be addressed alongside reform of the supply chain.

• Halt the process towards ever closer union: This would be the greatest challenge and may require a new treaty. It links directly to the issue of EU competencies and requires a willingness on the part of the Commission to show that the direction of travel in Europe is not just moving towards integration.

• A timetable for reform: a clear timetable for reform should be identified focusing on the relationship between the Eurozone and non Eurozone countries and also on The Single Market.

• Reforming the relationship between the Eurozone and non-Eurozone: this is key to adding greater weight and protection to the City, which should remain Europe’s financial centre whether the UK stays within the EU or leaves it.

• Completing the Single Market and address issues in services, in movement of people and in regulatory intrusion: This has to be a central part of reforms. The idea of movement of people needs to change to take into account the fact that the expansion of the EU to the east has resulted in huge variations in income levels. It is important to ensure there is continued free movement of people with the appropriate skills within the EU but that needs to be seen alongside the sensible economic need to discourage benefit migrants.

• Sector specific reforms: Given the importance of the digital economy a case could be made for having a Digital Commissioner and removing barriers to digital infrastructure improvements. There is also a legitimate case for the UK having a fully recognised ‘Luxembourg Compromise’ over financial services legislation and regulation. A clear aim should be to cut out unnecessary, complex and intrusive regulation. EU social policy also needs to be considered particularly in terms of avoiding increased regulation, which adds to the cost of employing people and can hit small firms hard.

• General areas of economic reform: there are also some general areas of economic reform including halting unnecessary regulation and further reforming the EU budget.

• Non economic areas for reform: Non-economic areas of interest may prove to be as important in any referendum as the economic ones. A key issue is the future relationship between national and European law, and the case for re-establishing the supremacy of UK courts in some areas.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2014 16:13 - 44670 of 81564

Hazy one.

"Maggie and her kiss of death."

Not sure which would be the worse a kiss from Maggie or Theresa.

Forgot there would always be the hairy one!

MaxK - 06 Aug 2014 18:00 - 44671 of 81564

Ah, the wish list from heaven EL.


Fair enough, so it's out we go, cos theres no way the €uroburgers will go for those conditions.

hilary - 06 Aug 2014 18:27 - 44672 of 81564

Max,

The UK won't be leaving the EU unless you and countless others ditch any notion of voting UKIP and vote Tory. I know Cameron's a bit greasy, but that's the only way you'll get the referendum you crave for.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2014 19:53 - 44673 of 81564

Exec,


As far as I can see 7 out of 8 of those proposals are routinely discussed and modified.

As far as protecting London financial services are concerned, I doubt there is a chance in hell of ongoing protection of some of its money laundering activities.

If UK opts out then more of the financial services will move to Europe with tighter rules on "flows" of money and money washing especially in and out of the UK.

MaxK - 06 Aug 2014 20:39 - 44674 of 81564

A cut-price NHS revolution would be Ed Miliband’s biggest gamble

Labour knows that health and social care should be merged, but it can’t agree on how


Usual suspects and arguments can be found here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/11013816/A-cut-price-NHS-revolution-would-be-Ed-Milibands-biggest-gamble.html


But the real star of the article is this very nice looking woman (or at least it is for me)

MaxK - 06 Aug 2014 21:25 - 44675 of 81564

Hilary.

Cameroon is more than a bit greasy, he's absolutely slathered in the slippery stuff.

Even if he gets in, it will make no difference, as his policy is to stay in the €U whatever the outcome of the supposed negotiations. (his words)


MaxK - 06 Aug 2014 21:31 - 44676 of 81564




A Message From The Headmaster
Issue 1371



Hello, girls!


And boys, obviously. But this has been a week of exciting changes in the staff room and in a radical change from my previous appointments policy I’ve promoted a number of staff to senior positions who are not Old Etonians. They can’t be – because they’re women! And I am really looking forward to learning all their names in due course – and not just when I want a cup of tea! Just joking of course, calm down, dears. The ladies in the staff room will obviously bring more than a cup of tea. Some biscuits would be nice. No, just kidding.

All of the women, from Ms Thingummy to Ms Whatshername, have been appointed entirely on ability, and not just their ability to look good in staff photographs and the school prospectus! Another joke, girls, you’ll have to get used to this kind of banter in the staff room! (Particularly as, for all the fuss about this, there’s only five of you.)

We’ll sort out the fine details of your appointments later, ie what subjects you’re going to teach and how you’re going to teach them.

Also, don’t worry about what you’ll be doing in the next academic year, because it’s all been planned out. And here’s a glimpse of what your busy schedule holds...





Think you can handle that? So, time to roll up your sleeves – unless you’re wearing a sleeveless halterneck, Ms Oneonthetelly, or a swimsuit, Ms Otheroneonthetelly. Thanks to all the dads who’ve already asked for a new staff calendar, to hang alongside the SamCal 2014!

D.C.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2014 21:50 - 44677 of 81564

What are the chances of Russia walking into Ukraine and calling it a failed state?

Seemingly no resistance or military help from USA or NATO and sanctions being laughed at!

I suggest sending Captain Wavy Dave in a Captain Marvel outfit.

That should frighten them.

Probably be refused as an attempt of an illegal immigrant.
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