Brown's spend, spend, spend during his Chancellor's days has brought us into the current economy we are facing today. His appeal at a Downing Street meeting for the lenders to pass on cuts appeared to fall on deaf ears with HBOS, which owns the Halifax, increasing its rate on some mortgages from 6.09 to 6.59 per cent. Borrowers taking out this type of deal will now pay 46 more a month. On a two-year tracker, the rate will increase from 1.49 points above base rate to 1.99 points, giving a current rate of 6.99 per cent.

Other lenders are expected to follow Halifaxs lead.

If the Government wants the banks to lower mortgage rates to home owners - why not just offer them through Northern Rock? Everyone would rush to the Rock to get the loans forcing banks to match the rates or lose the business? Or maybe the government would then run into bigger credit crunch?

A year is a long time in politics.

I can remember a rugby game at "Twickers" a few years ago, when at half time Emgland were jubilant and the champagne flowed, only to find at the end of the match they had been "well and truly whipped"!

Can remember the team which did it, think they were a club side wearing red jerseys.

Perhaps the dressing room talk to the Labour Party may be on similar lines.

I wait and will see. i hope it won't be too painful to watch.

PS. Cameron reminds me more of Canute than a king.

Didn't he lose all the crown jewels and then rob the people in order to replace them!

Don't think so - surely it was King John. Canute tried to hold back the sea, in much the same way as Brown is trying to hold back the the anger, hatred, contempt and ridicule of the electorate that he has ridden rough-shod over for far too long.

In the words of the Moody Blues song, "If you gotta go, Go NOW"!

brown claiming for 2 houses..........darling similar and flipped house 4 times in 4 years.

brown promised sackings for abuse of rules......well he and cabinet should all be in jail......all used accountants.......esp darling and that means WE pay his VAT AS WELL!! UNBELIEVABLE

These are marxist and stalinist! what a joke

stalin was voted in 1st of all and he died with only 3 suits. brown has amassed millions in his pension.

stalin would have got him shot in a trench for that. and stalin got things done even if consequences were done........and russia is for russians, pure and simple unlike browns british jobs for british people nonense.

everyone knows the brits are leaving in their droves to other countries

also no-one respects britain anymore.......its just a tin pot country like other pathetic euro nations like italy

Chuf,
Apologies.
Unfortunately for me, I think you are right.
Canute, had a better ring to it.
But wasn't John a pillaging B.
I suppose for Cameron that would be a suitable comparison.
8-)

Chuf,


Just looked up Canute
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King of Denmark and Norway who forced Edmund II to divide England with him; on the death of Edmund II.
Canute became king of all England (994-1035).
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Sounds quite like what Wisteria is trying to accomplish.

I believe a better comparison would be Gordon Brown to Neville Chamberlain. Neville Chamberlain was the only Prime Minister to be forced out of office having never fought a general election as he took over unelected from Baldwin when he retired in 1937.

Frank Field just entered the fray again with an interesting comment about next general election (see order-order.com)

I hope the Labour rebels would nail the last nail on his coffin this evening.

Rumours that Purnell will stand- stalking horse?

Purnell is more like a wooden horse.

I doubt that the Labour party would be stupid enough to bring GB down before May 2010.

By the way, how many leaders have the tories had over the last 5 -10 years.

Watch the euro splitters start their work.

Come on Ken speak your mind!

i wouldnt ride purnell!! but i would a wooden horse.

purnell looks like a small boy in primary school

Gus
Just read Frank Field's comments. At least there is someone with some shred of integrity and honesty left who is not cowed by the bully-boy tactics of the whips and other political thugs who do the dirty-work of the leadership of the most self-serving, incompetent, arrogant, corrupt political dregs of the last 30 or 40 years.

stalin would have had the whole lot shot including brown and darling. stalin would despise browns huge pension and brown and darling misuse of expenses or housing.......death is the only consequence for this

Cameron is probably hoping for Gordon to hang on as he has an edge on him and also guarantee him on the course for a landslide victory in the next election.

Brown is very prone to gaffes, mistakes and calamaties so Cameron is quite possibly biding his time. Whatever went on yesterday the party lackeys will still try to serve their own self interest and at the first sign of any hiccup with Brown they will all jump on him again. It's only a matter of time before it all falls apart.

This whole thing stinks. To me, the whole purpose of this may be to hold out so that the Lisbon Treaty can be ratified without giving the electorate a referendum. If the Tories were in Government before ratification a referendum would be held. All hell could be let loose over this in a few months as this begins to be realised by the public in general.

In spite of all the huffing and puffing, it seems that GB has survived to fight again.

I wonder if the labour party will be invigorated by the past few months, knock a few heads together and be allowed to publish their future policies.

Also, interesting to see what the "expenses" and financial clean up of the parliament will produce.

Think Wisteria has blown it.