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driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

EWRobson

Thanks for your input today. I posted Howard White's "25000 machines in 3 years target" this morning, asking for "boffin" interpretation!

Eric, you are a star boffin.

Sequestor

Can't think that Eric has ever been called a ramper before. However, I don't suppose he will lose any sleep over the comment. Unlike Eric and his research I can't say that you have added anything worth reading to this board apart from your angst that you sold out too early, so best for all is probably to filter your good self as you suggested. TTFN

Sequestor
Although only a small deramper, because you are trying to get back in, did you read my earlier post 4483 why don't you deramp Last minute.com back down to 17p or some other stock, why this stock. Not that I'm bothered but I do not under stand.
I have never ramped or deramped a stock; I have always given a reason for getting out then just left.

No need to filter you Sequestor, you made money and sold at 23p, your choice.
Eric is no ramper, he just does the maths of earnings from the possible number of machines to be fitted. Shares mag article when SEO was a mere 8p stated that with conservative estimates of machines to be fitted it reduced projected PE to just 2. Apply modest PE20 to that and you get 80p. Any deal with Walmart plus Frogpack would eclipse that.

We are here for the potential, we know there are risks but less than all these oil/metal/mineral explorers that people buy in to such as Regal Petroleum/Ramco energy etc etc. People can keep knocking it but let UK's number 2 retailer Asda do the talking as Tony Ruane has done, let Walmart follow, let Frogpack develop into a world leading safety/biodegradable package.
The packaging world pays my mortgage and SEO is bringing something new to the market that is innovative/cost efficent and energy efficient not to mention providing opportunities to recycle or dispose of safely.
I've lost count of the times doubters accuse us of ramping, sat on >500% profits do I sound bothered??? No, because I believe we've just got going and that is my opinion and it aint changing.

Sequestor.
You obviously dont know Eric too well. You must be new to this board and only read a couple Eric`s posts and assumed he is a ramper. He has given us all plenty of sound advise not just on seo but other shares to. I dont post to often but can say that Eric`s honest opinions has helped me make some profitable decisions. THANK YOU ERIC.

Sequestor
If you think eric is a ramper take a look at this from another site.

25000 machines x $55000 = $1,375,000,000 per annum !!!!

751,913,690 per annum !!!!

What P/E do you put on tha tkind of growth, when you consider that they have only done half of the job, and only a fraction of the world demand for Greenseal ?

P/E 20 - 751,913,690 x 20 / 871m shares = 17.26 per share net of costs

P/E 30 - 751,913,690 x 20 / 871m shares = 25.89 per share net of costs

Sequester,

Just jumping on the "Support-for-Eric" theme here....... Have to say that Eric only posts what he can back up. From my several weeks of reading Eric's posts, he makes a statement then justifies it with conservative calculations based on reported facts and estimated figures. He has maintained SEO as a buy from 7.5p onwards.

Furthermore one person's opinions will not affect this company one aota. Providing there are no major patent problems to come then SEO will become a FTSE-100 company < 3 years if you look at estimates once/if Walmart come on board. Once the mkt cap exceeds a certain figure then many of the bigger institutional fund mgrs will be allowed to pile in...... expect a huge rise in sp after this happens. With their technology applicaple to so many things, the potential for growth is mind boggling......

Not ramping here - just asking that you leave Eric alone, that's all!

markusantonius

Well said

well , well!! eric, it looks like you've been sussed, mate!! how long did you think you could get away with it??? you and yer mate, driver, ramping like good 'uns, the pair of you. disgusting!!! i'm shocked!!! :)
ooooooooo i feel better now that IIdiot's back. i was getting a little nervous about monday but he's just settled me down no end!! keep posting!
it's all getting a touch fractious on this thread. anyone with half a brain can see that seo is a share with risk. does it really need people to constantly post that in such a malicious way . it's a risky , jam tomorrow company. since asda signed the agreement with seo the risk has lessened greatly and the jam looks that bit closer. no one can argue with that. rumours are bullshit until it's either dismissed as rumour or confirmed as news. i'll wait for news and make my judgements based on news, not rumour.

Hey guys, I'm touched by the support. I don't have a problem with sequestor; in fact tried to persuade him that the current trading band is 27p to 30p and that he lost very little by getting back in at 28p rather than waiting for 26p which is unlikely to return. I expect he looked at the 1 conclusion and decided that it was impossible. I suggest he goes back through the post carefully and my earlier one based on Howard White's objective of covering half the machione population. It may be that he has missed the key issue of the royalties; a crucial factor which separates SEO from other manufacturing companies. In point of fact, SEO have redefined themselves as a copyright licensing company and have sub-contracted the manufacturing, installation and support tasks outside the UK.

Having said that, I am somewhat wary about the Monday start in that some are expecting an RNS which I don't really think will arrive. Early start on the golf course, so am hoping there won't be a heart attack on my return!

Eric

Take a bow Eric--you have quite a fan club well deserved if only for your humour! cheers may we all prosper together. MP

Thank you driver for your welcome, much appreciated.
A question which keeps popping up in my head, concerns the 3 trials
now being undertaken with ASDA. Why haven't they been run at the same time?
Seems with the numbers of engineers available this should have been possible,
it now looks likely we will be nearer, if not July before all 3 are complete, as against the expected April date.
Perhaps this is a consious decision by SEO (to gain further experiance?)or are ASDA just stringing it out, gaining valuable time and (free)production.
Not sure how this helps, just airing my thougts on the issue.
When trying to estimate revenue, licence and installation costs are
the key. ASDA WALMART will imo be looking to drive these down, any saving to the supplier will undoubtably be shared with them. As to what these might be
i don't know,but it ts worth taking into consideration. So when reading different figures, i'm inclined to accept the more conservative estimates.
regards cyril

EWRobson is very clever - he puts across a balanced view - but always a view which remains positive when taken as a whole - a good strategy which will win over some people - but failure to take into account the very serious situation now - and explicitly say this is an extreme risk now and has more chance of falling flat that being a success undermines the view somewhat IMO - sorry EWR - that is my view and my opinion - as you have an opinion of me which has been stated.

IMO the news coming is bad as it is real - and will blow away a lot of the hype - this may mean that Monday (or when it finally comes) - it will be a bad day for holders of SEO - still working on my post - will come tomorrow.

All

The crucial point about most of the posters on this board (I read several threads) is that they usually explain their reasoning, and/or sources for facts etc. I for one really do appreciate this as I have neither the time nor the know-how to do much research. However, I almost always check the stated sources/calculations etc...and then make my own decisions. It is fairly easy to spot the good guys after a while...happy to buy you a drink anytime Eric.

Ruthie

Insider , you never replied to my post, but then you never do to any one who challenges you..
Don't you get the point ? i'll say it again, like me, most of the people on this thread have already made a substantial amount out of SEO , so you were never going to scare anyone on here, now why don't you go back to advfn ..

There are so many possitives about stanelco so why does ii not ever mention them.When you look at the general markets which are trading sideways and the increase in seo`s shareprice over the past six months how can he keep slagging them.There product are at the forefront of new technology, include costsavings and have environmentle implications which is a current issue with most governments in todays society.Mining stocks have had a good run ,house stocks have risen ,retailers had a good run, but stanelco isn`t affected by any of these sectors which as previously stated are in a general sideways market at present.Where do you think institutions are going to invest in the next twelve -twentyfour months, because if i was investing in a bear market id`e be looking for an exciting company with massive potential and i think its only a matter of time before they jump onboard.If walmart get involved this could hit 50p within months which means i would have to revise my 30p six month price target.

IIdiot

Come on, reply to my post. Or are you just as gutless as you appear? Send me an email if you feel the public forum of a BB is too much for you to cope with. I won't post your response............honest!

I have been a member since MAM started, and trust me I know ramping backwards. To say a share worth pennies will soon be worth even one is ramping, but listen to whom you please, I hope you are right; but massive price rises on rumours usually unwind until REAL news happens- who knows it might do.
Then is the time to buy, and if 1 is achievable it will take slow and deliberate price rises over a period-IF-the co. is viable,

good luck in your endeavours, I will trade a few @25/6 p.

your "good lucks" at the end of each post are thinly veiled scaremongering and you write in a similar style to the only other knocker on this thread...

Everything bolis down to the fact that Stanelco have a few products which are well on the way to taking off... of course this is a risky investment.... they wont all sell a million...but its more fun than investing in ftse co's

and the threads are more interesting!

happy weekend everybody...