ramu
- 23 Aug 2006 14:50
- 46 of 3050
Currently not an investor - just came up on my radar this morning. Lots of info over at ADVFN and many comparisons being made with Suntech. I agree with Fortitude18 that this could be misleading for the reasons mentioned in post 36.
Many Chinese stocks do well initially mainly because they tend to be underpriced at placing eg CHNS. However, with SOLA, there are some good points - healthy order book, good financials, being in the renewable energy sector and in recycling.
The SP appears to be taking a breather and once the speculators leave, this should motor and if other Chinese stocks are anything to go by, I think we'll see 225p within 12 months, subject to usual market conditions, currency fluctuations, silicon prices and, most important, the demand for solar energy as a viable renewable source (if Germany is anything go by, I do not forsee a problem here). All IMHO and please DYOR.
However, I'm not at all comfortable that this company is incorporated in BVI thus gaining exemptions from issuing RNS for major movements in shareholdings. I would welcome all thoughts on this matter from anybody because my knowledge about companies incorporated in BVI is zilch. Thanks & good luck to all investors.
barwoni
- 23 Aug 2006 15:27
- 47 of 3050
Err lads maybe best taking a look at SIT a Sunny California company listed on aim and with orders in the region of 200 mill us.....300p down to 40p......
Solar.........
http://www.moneyam.com/quote/index.php
fortitude18
- 23 Aug 2006 15:36
- 48 of 3050
Re: SIT. Why as it fallen so far if its such a good investment? Think I will stick with SOLA thanks.
cheers
F18
ramu
- 23 Aug 2006 15:48
- 49 of 3050
Barwoni, SIT had cashflow problems because of poor financial management. Also, their core activity is manufacture of non-residential building integrated photovoltaic (BIPV) roofing systems. This sector has seen growth of 35% per annum the past 3 years but companies like SIT could not deliver for various reasons like lack of resources, cashflow, past management emphasis on sales instead of production etc. In my opinion, I feel it's not right to compare SIT with SOLA. However, it's possible these same problems can arise with SOLA as we in UK do not have sufficient knowledge of the SOLA's management team but if the historical financials are anything to go by, I very much doubt SOLA will encounter similar problems. Generally speaking, I have rarely come across a Chinese company not meeting it's targets because of lack of resources or cashflow. All IMHO and please DYOR.
barwoni
- 23 Aug 2006 16:09
- 50 of 3050
Thx for that input ramu.
fortitude18
- 23 Aug 2006 18:15
- 51 of 3050
a company like Motech would not enter into a 3 year supply agreement if they thought SOLA could not execute its side of the bargain. Large companies do credit checks and financial viability checks on their suppliers before entering into these agreements. If SOLA let Motech down that fcuks up Motechs production output. Would Motech take that risk? Of course not.
With SOLA you get added value throughout the production process. Explains why margins are so competitive
F18
whatuwant
- 24 Aug 2006 00:03
- 53 of 3050
barwoni - all of 2006 & 70% of 2007 order book already filled at SOLA.
fortitude18
- 24 Aug 2006 09:05
- 54 of 3050
i see our very own Shares mag have mentioned Renesola experiencing 'meteoric' growth but concerns about silicon supply. the mgt have already assured its customers that this is not an issue for the foresseable future
F18
whatuwant
- 24 Aug 2006 23:22
- 56 of 3050
Shares mag doesn't seem to have it's finger on the pulse.
cynic
- 25 Aug 2006 07:12
- 57 of 3050
only because they do not say what you/we would like .... e.g. a "must buy"
fortitude18
- 25 Aug 2006 07:38
- 58 of 3050
cynic
the mag's analysis was crap. its taken people on advfn weeks to understand the compnany and the industry in which it operates so some stressed out hack on a second rate invest mag isn't gonna do much better and it showed.
f18
whatuwant
- 25 Aug 2006 10:09
- 59 of 3050
f18 - agreed.
fortitude18
- 25 Aug 2006 13:26
- 61 of 3050
ive calculated that if you take the failed MEMC/Motech deal worth 800M over 8 years as a basis (100mpa) and apply that to the motech/sola deal you arrive at a pa figure of 300m over 3 years (100M pa) but sure that sola offered a discount to secure the deal, say 25-30% = 75M pa or 225M over 3 years. well you can see the potential for explosive growth in earnings. speculative figures of course but its a loose framework of figures on which to extraplote.
F18
ateeq180
- 28 Aug 2006 19:06
- 62 of 3050
all gone quite,when it was going at the rate of knots for two days this thread was gathering pace,its gone quite why is that.
silvermede
- 28 Aug 2006 19:09
- 63 of 3050
Bank Holiday!
ateeq180
- 28 Aug 2006 19:20
- 64 of 3050
COMPLETELY AGREE,I AM SURE TOMORROW IS TUESDAY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPENING AND MUCH MUCH MORE.