Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Any mention about what happened up in Scotland ?....it seems other news has inevitably put TM's visit in the shadow......

It looks like the coup in Turkey has failed unfortunately. Turkey needed a coup to get rid of Erdogan. He is ruling very mcuh like a dictator. There will be another coup or someone will hopefully assassinate him.

It turns out that when Boris was booed at the French Embassy, it was about three Brits doing the booing and not the French who were applauding and cheering.

The events in France will inevitably lead to the further rise in France of the extreme right : they will end up holding power of some sort within the French government, and rightly so as it seems there are great problems with differences between French people and the growing arab/muslim community over there.....

This is why the UK has turned away form the EU....it has to be said that it has not turned its back on Europe in forms of cooperating/trading and Nato membership : do we want all these godforsaken people from unfortunate/desolate it has to be said countries arriving in our townships ? : NO is the answer.....Britain is basically what it should be : British.....we already have more than our fair share of overseas people,...it sounds tough, but those people are big..big trouble....

Soon other countries will hold referendums perhaps : Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands are all considering this realising that the EU as it is will end in disaster and that salvation is in departure from from what the French might describe as "la merde quoi" !......

The border police seem to be doing their job at the moment. I wonder if May has given them a kick.

My wife was having her nails done yesterday in North London. Border Police came in and asked for documents from all the workers. They had a tablet with connection to the Home Office. They compared photos from the HO with the staff. One woman was here on a student visa which had not been renewed. They read her rights to her. She said, "do I have to come with you?". They replied, "Yes, you are under arrest and will be deported".

The Border Police then went into the next business and were working their way down the High Street.

They might do well do go round the back and wait for sudden departures....

Car washes seem a likely potential target.

Hope mine doesn't get shut down because they do a fantastic job. Haven't nicked the mobile phone yet....but I never get given any £1 coins they might have found under the front car seats. They must play 'Finders Keepers' because I know there must be some occasionally.

They're probably fake anyway EL.

I hope Liam, Boris and Dave are polishing their begging bowls.

Interesting to see the toll charges will be for "freight" traffic through EU will be?

Fred (little ray of sunshine)


I suspect toll charges, if any, will closely resemble toll charges for European traffic on UK roads.

Sorry to spoil your illusions.


And here is something else to cheer you up:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

Just wondering, but I will wait and see.

If I had the upkeep of a transport line I would expect to charge a "toll" in one form or another for its users.


Of course, my motor home will be exempt.

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Actually, I think May's choice of "negotiators" is very apposite.

It will either make them or break them, but it is certain to keep them busy for the next 5years.

Erdogan has removed 2,745 judges after the coup.

Why ?...what the hell have they done wrong ?...in stockmarket terms this sounds like a reverse takeover coup !...opportunity jail knocks !....

Todays Telegraph -


If you think Britain’s banks are in bad shape, spare a thought for the Italians, where the country’s battered lenders are rapidly crumbling under an astonishing €360bn (£300bn) of bad loans.

While most people fret about the fallout from Brexit, some experts believe Italy’s banking crisis represents a far greater threat to the eurozone.

The problem is that Italy’s financial system needs a substantial bailout, but EU “bail-in” laws prevent prime minister Matteo Renzi from undertaking one without first wiping out the banks’ shareholders and bondholders.



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Renzi, however, is desperate to avoid this because it could cost him his political career. In Italy, tens of thousands of households and individuals have bought such bonds, and forcing the problems of the banks on the man on the street would make it impossible for Renzi to be re-elected.





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He argues that the rules, introduced after the financial crisis, should be waived because the market turmoil unleashed by Brexit has threatened Italy’s financial stability.

However, Brussels is refusing to budge, and senior banking sources believe Renzi could press ahead with a €40bn bailout.

Such a move would be the equivalent of throwing a hand grenade at the entire EU project. By flouting state aid rules, it throws into question the future of the banking union, a central pillar of the eurozone.

Also, by setting a precedent for bank bailouts, it paves the way for countries such as Portugal, where the financial system is also under strain, to suddenly do the same, therefore undermining the EU’s entire credibility. Forget the Greek crisis – this is Europe’s biggest test yet.

Daily Mail - Jobs are UP by 150,000 after referendum shock: Boss of Reed says majority of firms have no plans to freeze recruitment

Cabinet clash over date to trigger Article 50 and Brexit talks


By Tim Ross, Senior Political Correspondent
16 July 2016 • 9:57pm



Theresa May is facing her first Cabinet clash with her new pro-Brexit ministers over when Britain should trigger divorce proceedings with the European Union.


The Prime Minister has signalled that she could delay the moment when she formally notifies Brussels that Britain is leaving the EU by invoking Article 50 of the European treaties.

Mrs May said she wanted to wait until Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish first minister, was happy with the plan so that there could be an agreed UK-wide approach to Brexit negotiations. Fears have been raised that this will mean years of delays as the Scottish National Party is opposed to Brexit.






More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/16/cabinet-clash-over-date-to-trigger-article-50-and-brexit-talks/

looks like the fix was in all along...

Can't believe that , it seems very naive of her to leave it up to the biggest problem she could have had , Sturgeon could string her along for ages .