Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

same old rubbish, so i'll follow suit ....
courier drivers and similar are given no choice in the matter

I quite believe you c, but that's not saying it's right and fair.


The rates they are paying couriers is a disgrace (£0.70 - £0.80 a drop) is absurd.

Lord Ashcroft’s poll shows a swing to Labour in Tory-held marginal seats
20 August 2014 16:31

One of the most fascinating things about Lord Ashcroft’s latest poll is not its content, but who in the Conservative party will be reading it. Naturally, those trying to hold onto or win in the marginal seats that the peer has polled will be very interested (but not cheered) by the findings. But besides those with a personal stake in individual seats, there will be two groups of MPs: those who comb through the full datasets that Ashcroft produces, and those who do not. These are, respectively, the pragmatists and the optimists in the party, and they naturally have quite different views of what will happen next May.

The optimists compare the two parties’ momentum, and judge that the Conservatives have the upper hand, with a good drip-drip of statistics that suggest their policies are working, and a better hearing in the press. They may feel that Labour’s summer tour, branded ‘The Choice’, is struggling to cut through, although it would be foolish for anyone to think that this has much to do with Labour’s campaign machine or the Tories’ ability to counter-attack: the simple truth is that with such a febrile international scene, few are paying attention, and rightly so.

But the pragmatists, who are numbers types hailing from the City and have less enthusiasm for feelings, will be reading the latest poll, and feeling even less like optimists than they did before the day got going. Here’s why:

In the eight seats from 13-20 on Labour’s target list, there is a 6.5 per cent swing from the Tories to Labour. This shows, as Ashcroft says, that Labour is marching deeper into Tory territory.

In four Labour seats that the Tories are targeting where Ashcroft previously found the smallest leads – Birmingham Edgbaston, Bolton West, Hampstead and Kilburn and Southampton Itchen – there was an overall swing to Labour of 5.5 per cent.

In Tory seats, 36 per cent said they wanted a Labour government after the next election, with 27 per cent saying they’d like a Tory government.

There are a few more positive kernels hanging about: 30 per cent of voters in Labour seats were satisfied with David Cameron’s performance as Prime Minister (compared to 29 per cent in the Conservative seats), but another 27 per cent preferred Cameron as Prime Minister over Ed Miliband, even though they were dissatisfied with Cameron’s performance. And 33 per cent said they’d rather have Ed Miliband. This is why the Tories want to make this election campaign presidential – because their greatest asset is Ed Miliband’s lack of appeal.

But those pragmatist Tory MPs will turn from the Ashcroft poll to the betting markets. And the bookies have responded to the Ashcroft poll: Ladbrokes have tightened their odds of Labour winning the most seats from 4/5 to 8/11 favourites.

HILARY what were you saying about the BOOKIES???

But those pragmatist Tory MPs will turn from the Ashcroft poll to the betting markets. And the bookies have responded to the Ashcroft poll: Ladbrokes have tightened their odds of Labour winning the most seats from 4/5 to 8/11 favourites.

Still 6 months to go Hays LOL LOL LOL LOL

Actually more like 9 months!

If they catch that British Muslim who killed the American , will he go on trial in the UK were his human rights will be upheld and costly trial and life in jail with the tax payer getting the bill. Or will he be sent to the USA and face the death penalty.

I watched a News program the other night where this muslim council chap was on,saying that these Brit ISIS members would not be allowed back by ISIS as it would be seen as desertion. They would be shot , so they may be in it for life. But I dare say the US will do everything it can to get him first.

I would think our very determined SAS will catch him and kill him 'in action'.

If possable they would try first to get any infomation out of him about the other Hostages and about the other Brits fighting out there

Agreed.

but all done within the geneva convention of course

Shame our government as let up to 1,000 of them back into this country.

Was on the newspaper review last night on SKY News.

What on earth are Camoron and May playing at. ??

Is austerity worth the future potential of thousands of people being slaughtered on the streets of Britain.

This government are the pits.

Wish TANKER was here he'd tell you how it is, not how you'd want to hear it.

Nu Lab would be advertising for them to come back, promising nu council houses and benefits.

WHAT.... Blair couldnt wait to engage. I dont think so.

Camoron looks very weak, laid on his fat arse on the beach while all around is imploding.

Reminds me of the London Riots, took him 4 days to even bother and London was burning down.

The rain came to his rescue in the end.

Anyway its all about border controls and we all know who as cut the budget 30%, May backed by Osbourne.

How can you stop them coming back if they only have British citizenship. In most cases the border controls would not be aware of where they had been since leaving UK. That is why the figures are an estimate. If they were sure then the people would be arrested. You make out it is so simple. Most who have left have seemingly reasonable reasons for leaving UK such as holidays or visiting relatives. They are not going to volunteer information on their real destinations.

to where from uk would you fly with a uk passport so you could avoid being required to have a visa to enter anywhere in m/e other than uae?

Stop fudging Hays, the security people have a very good idea who these people are but without the feet on the ground to stop thier entry, they are coming back at will.

May as been put on the spot about this on more than one occasion.

Thats the Tories for you, cut spending at all costs to get taxes down for our chums.

Its not good enough that we are finding people fit for work when the week after they die from thier cancer etc etc. Lets put everyone at risk bar our chums and backers.

NASTY TORIES.

Most of the people heading for ISIS travel to Turkey which is a reasonable holiday destination. They then cross the border to Syria. Once there they disappear. To come back, they just reverse the route. The border between Turkey and Syria is over 800km and very leaky in terms of controls.