goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
aldwickk
- 22 Aug 2014 11:42
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If they catch that British Muslim who killed the American , will he go on trial in the UK were his human rights will be upheld and costly trial and life in jail with the tax payer getting the bill. Or will he be sent to the USA and face the death penalty.
VICTIM
- 22 Aug 2014 12:06
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I watched a News program the other night where this muslim council chap was on,saying that these Brit ISIS members would not be allowed back by ISIS as it would be seen as desertion. They would be shot , so they may be in it for life. But I dare say the US will do everything it can to get him first.
aldwickk
- 22 Aug 2014 12:15
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If possable they would try first to get any infomation out of him about the other Hostages and about the other Brits fighting out there
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 13:10
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but all done within the geneva convention of course
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 14:09
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Shame our government as let up to 1,000 of them back into this country.
Was on the newspaper review last night on SKY News.
What on earth are Camoron and May playing at. ??
Is austerity worth the future potential of thousands of people being slaughtered on the streets of Britain.
This government are the pits.
Wish TANKER was here he'd tell you how it is, not how you'd want to hear it.
MaxK
- 22 Aug 2014 14:44
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Nu Lab would be advertising for them to come back, promising nu council houses and benefits.
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 14:58
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WHAT.... Blair couldnt wait to engage. I dont think so.
Camoron looks very weak, laid on his fat arse on the beach while all around is imploding.
Reminds me of the London Riots, took him 4 days to even bother and London was burning down.
The rain came to his rescue in the end.
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 14:59
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Anyway its all about border controls and we all know who as cut the budget 30%, May backed by Osbourne.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 15:08
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How can you stop them coming back if they only have British citizenship. In most cases the border controls would not be aware of where they had been since leaving UK. That is why the figures are an estimate. If they were sure then the people would be arrested. You make out it is so simple. Most who have left have seemingly reasonable reasons for leaving UK such as holidays or visiting relatives. They are not going to volunteer information on their real destinations.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 15:14
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to where from uk would you fly with a uk passport so you could avoid being required to have a visa to enter anywhere in m/e other than uae?
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 15:41
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Stop fudging Hays, the security people have a very good idea who these people are but without the feet on the ground to stop thier entry, they are coming back at will.
May as been put on the spot about this on more than one occasion.
Thats the Tories for you, cut spending at all costs to get taxes down for our chums.
Its not good enough that we are finding people fit for work when the week after they die from thier cancer etc etc. Lets put everyone at risk bar our chums and backers.
NASTY TORIES.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:03
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Most of the people heading for ISIS travel to Turkey which is a reasonable holiday destination. They then cross the border to Syria. Once there they disappear. To come back, they just reverse the route. The border between Turkey and Syria is over 800km and very leaky in terms of controls.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:05
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gf
This is not a party political problem. Cuts or othwieare not important. It is the lack of evidence of the activities of the people involved.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:09
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Turkey requires a visa for starters, so i would not have thought it beyond the capabilities of computer-screening to pick out potential suspects - eg they're unlikely to white, or travelling with children and so and so forth
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:20
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3 guesses as to which country/economy the following was applied ......
five years after the end of the recession, the labour market has yet to fully recover ...... main concerns are the decline in the number of people participating in the labor market, the jump in those working part-time because they can't find full-time positions, the ranks of the long-term unemployed and the lack of wage growth.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:23
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It is not sufficient evidence to arrest people just because they are visiting Turkey. Don't forget that Turkey issues the visas not the UK. There are other routes via Jordan. Some go to Pakistan and then fly to Turkey or Jordan. You can easily get to Turkey via Romania, Bulgaria or Greece and not need visas.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:26
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bet that if you hold a uk passport, you still need a visa to get into turkey from all of those countries
and nor did i say arrest, but certainly they could be flagged either on the way out or on the way back and screened as appropriate
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:27
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The text looks American, so it is either someone in the US commenting on maybe France or on the US itself.