goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
MaxK
- 22 Aug 2014 14:44
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Nu Lab would be advertising for them to come back, promising nu council houses and benefits.
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 14:58
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WHAT.... Blair couldnt wait to engage. I dont think so.
Camoron looks very weak, laid on his fat arse on the beach while all around is imploding.
Reminds me of the London Riots, took him 4 days to even bother and London was burning down.
The rain came to his rescue in the end.
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 14:59
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Anyway its all about border controls and we all know who as cut the budget 30%, May backed by Osbourne.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 15:08
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How can you stop them coming back if they only have British citizenship. In most cases the border controls would not be aware of where they had been since leaving UK. That is why the figures are an estimate. If they were sure then the people would be arrested. You make out it is so simple. Most who have left have seemingly reasonable reasons for leaving UK such as holidays or visiting relatives. They are not going to volunteer information on their real destinations.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 15:14
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to where from uk would you fly with a uk passport so you could avoid being required to have a visa to enter anywhere in m/e other than uae?
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 15:41
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Stop fudging Hays, the security people have a very good idea who these people are but without the feet on the ground to stop thier entry, they are coming back at will.
May as been put on the spot about this on more than one occasion.
Thats the Tories for you, cut spending at all costs to get taxes down for our chums.
Its not good enough that we are finding people fit for work when the week after they die from thier cancer etc etc. Lets put everyone at risk bar our chums and backers.
NASTY TORIES.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:03
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Most of the people heading for ISIS travel to Turkey which is a reasonable holiday destination. They then cross the border to Syria. Once there they disappear. To come back, they just reverse the route. The border between Turkey and Syria is over 800km and very leaky in terms of controls.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:05
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gf
This is not a party political problem. Cuts or othwieare not important. It is the lack of evidence of the activities of the people involved.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:09
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Turkey requires a visa for starters, so i would not have thought it beyond the capabilities of computer-screening to pick out potential suspects - eg they're unlikely to white, or travelling with children and so and so forth
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:20
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3 guesses as to which country/economy the following was applied ......
five years after the end of the recession, the labour market has yet to fully recover ...... main concerns are the decline in the number of people participating in the labor market, the jump in those working part-time because they can't find full-time positions, the ranks of the long-term unemployed and the lack of wage growth.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:23
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It is not sufficient evidence to arrest people just because they are visiting Turkey. Don't forget that Turkey issues the visas not the UK. There are other routes via Jordan. Some go to Pakistan and then fly to Turkey or Jordan. You can easily get to Turkey via Romania, Bulgaria or Greece and not need visas.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:26
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bet that if you hold a uk passport, you still need a visa to get into turkey from all of those countries
and nor did i say arrest, but certainly they could be flagged either on the way out or on the way back and screened as appropriate
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:27
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The text looks American, so it is either someone in the US commenting on maybe France or on the US itself.
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 16:31
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Those borders are easily crossed. I am sure that secure routes have been planned for some time. Don't forget that large numbers of Afghanistanies and other nationalities have easily crossed Europe to end up in Calais.
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 16:39
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Hays talking silly again, of course austerity measures are a party political issue, the Tories have cut back to the bone in every area in government that they could possibly do, and at the same time have rewarded the rich with Tax Cuts.
All we have to do is look at the NHS, Schools, Prisons, Welfare, Social Services, The Armed Forces etc etc.
Border policing and controls are a farce, a laugh, to any Tom Dick and Abdul who wants to get into this country.
Camoron after he as lost the GE and he as blood on his hands will look back and say "yes I and Giddeon were out of our depths just like Mervyn King said we were".
Camoron is a weak leader and this particular issue as highlited that, just like the London Riots.
Boris as the right idea, water cannons at the ready he wouldnt take people out of the front line on terrorism.
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 16:46
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janet yellen in her current speech .... no further comment required
goldfinger
- 22 Aug 2014 16:54
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Why what as she said Cyners?
hilary
- 22 Aug 2014 16:56
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Shouldn't that be Giddeon and I?
cynic
- 22 Aug 2014 17:00
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she was talking about when interest rates might go up
Haystack
- 22 Aug 2014 17:16
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From what she said, it is unlikely that interest rates will rise soon.