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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 16 Jul 2016 17:38 - 4520 of 12628

Erdogan has removed 2,745 judges after the coup.

required field - 16 Jul 2016 19:55 - 4521 of 12628

Why ?...what the hell have they done wrong ?...in stockmarket terms this sounds like a reverse takeover coup !...opportunity jail knocks !....

dreamcatcher - 16 Jul 2016 21:53 - 4522 of 12628

Todays Telegraph -


If you think Britain’s banks are in bad shape, spare a thought for the Italians, where the country’s battered lenders are rapidly crumbling under an astonishing €360bn (£300bn) of bad loans.

While most people fret about the fallout from Brexit, some experts believe Italy’s banking crisis represents a far greater threat to the eurozone.

The problem is that Italy’s financial system needs a substantial bailout, but EU “bail-in” laws prevent prime minister Matteo Renzi from undertaking one without first wiping out the banks’ shareholders and bondholders.



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Renzi, however, is desperate to avoid this because it could cost him his political career. In Italy, tens of thousands of households and individuals have bought such bonds, and forcing the problems of the banks on the man on the street would make it impossible for Renzi to be re-elected.





Italy banks





He argues that the rules, introduced after the financial crisis, should be waived because the market turmoil unleashed by Brexit has threatened Italy’s financial stability.

However, Brussels is refusing to budge, and senior banking sources believe Renzi could press ahead with a €40bn bailout.

Such a move would be the equivalent of throwing a hand grenade at the entire EU project. By flouting state aid rules, it throws into question the future of the banking union, a central pillar of the eurozone.

Also, by setting a precedent for bank bailouts, it paves the way for countries such as Portugal, where the financial system is also under strain, to suddenly do the same, therefore undermining the EU’s entire credibility. Forget the Greek crisis – this is Europe’s biggest test yet.

dreamcatcher - 16 Jul 2016 22:23 - 4523 of 12628

Daily Mail - Jobs are UP by 150,000 after referendum shock: Boss of Reed says majority of firms have no plans to freeze recruitment

MaxK - 16 Jul 2016 23:47 - 4524 of 12628

Cabinet clash over date to trigger Article 50 and Brexit talks


By Tim Ross, Senior Political Correspondent
16 July 2016 • 9:57pm



Theresa May is facing her first Cabinet clash with her new pro-Brexit ministers over when Britain should trigger divorce proceedings with the European Union.


The Prime Minister has signalled that she could delay the moment when she formally notifies Brussels that Britain is leaving the EU by invoking Article 50 of the European treaties.

Mrs May said she wanted to wait until Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish first minister, was happy with the plan so that there could be an agreed UK-wide approach to Brexit negotiations. Fears have been raised that this will mean years of delays as the Scottish National Party is opposed to Brexit.






More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/16/cabinet-clash-over-date-to-trigger-article-50-and-brexit-talks/

MaxK - 16 Jul 2016 23:49 - 4525 of 12628

looks like the fix was in all along...

VICTIM - 17 Jul 2016 07:42 - 4526 of 12628

Can't believe that , it seems very naive of her to leave it up to the biggest problem she could have had , Sturgeon could string her along for ages .

VICTIM - 17 Jul 2016 07:49 - 4527 of 12628

Australia calls for Brexit trade deal , May says very encouraging , shows Brexit can work for the UK . Yes Theresa that's if you get it done quickly enough .

Fred1new - 17 Jul 2016 08:34 - 4528 of 12628

It is OK you have the right man in charge!

Chris Carson - 17 Jul 2016 10:19 - 4529 of 12628

Unlike the Labour Party Freda LOL!!!!

cynic - 17 Jul 2016 10:22 - 4530 of 12628

perhaps just a honeymoon period, but i think TM may well prove to be a very strong PM

required field - 17 Jul 2016 12:07 - 4531 of 12628

The Scots are round the bend : No way can Scotland as it is remain in the EU.....Scotland can't have it both ways : they agreed and participated in the referendum and went along with it....the majority vote : says we leave....now oh : they did't want that result...well it's too late...they should have then not participated in the vote....it seems they want it all ways.....on their own they are completely unequipped to deal with the EU.....real shambles in Caledonia it seems....

grannyboy - 17 Jul 2016 12:24 - 4532 of 12628

If Scotland were to vote for independence, then the rest of the UK would/should
stop subsidising Scotland, and if that were to happen, Scotland if staying in the
EU(If Brussels allowed them to), or if they had to re-apply, would under EU rules
have worse debt then Greece, and so there would need to be austerity measures
more severe then what Greece are having to go through.

So i'd say to fishstick Sturgeon..Go on, go for independence, but don't try and
hold the rest of the UK to ransom..

Haystack - 17 Jul 2016 13:42 - 4533 of 12628

Spain, France will veto Scotland joining the EU.

The Sturgeon ploy by May looks clever. She has put her in a difficult position by asking her what Scotland wants. Sturgeon is going to be unable to come up with much. This is not open ended. May will have a timetable in mind and say to Sturgeon, "well go have had a chance to say your piece, but we are committed to brexit adn we can't wait any longer". This has to be good for the Conservatives in Scotland where the party is making a comeback and bad for the SNP.

grannyboy - 17 Jul 2016 21:11 - 4534 of 12628

Yes could be a good ploy, so long as Sturgeon dosn't expect to much and that
Brexit really does mean Brexit and it weakens the SNP's stance that whatever
the UK negotiate then the Scots will have to go along with it, because in truth
the Scots are in a weak position, as haystack says Spain and France WILL veto
Scotland joining/re-joining.

VICTIM - 18 Jul 2016 08:07 - 4535 of 12628

I think too it is a ploy sort of realise where you are what you can't do , agree to be part of us and shut the feck up .

Haystack - 18 Jul 2016 13:18 - 4536 of 12628

Boris's official 115 room residence as Foreign Secretary: Chevening in Kent

ExecLine - 18 Jul 2016 13:58 - 4537 of 12628

To be shared with Liam Fox and David Davis, neither of whom are big mates - but there are 115 rooms.

Looks like at least two attic bedrooms to lock up the 'mad as a hatter' Jeremy Corbyn in for a duration or two.

cynic - 18 Jul 2016 14:21 - 4538 of 12628

JC being a limp lettuce, would be better in the vegetable garden

Joe Say - 18 Jul 2016 14:45 - 4539 of 12628

Lets hope the scottish witch gets her way and they can vote to leave us and stay in the EU

who they'll then have to pass the begging bowl to - as they'll be bankrupt

btw - we'll have the defence contracts back in England first
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