for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

driver
i am bullish about this but accept the reality of the markets. i will be as happy as anyone if it pans out. i am mega peed off because i bought a huge amount of these circa 5p. i sold at a minor loss because it was going nowhere.hindsight is great but so is being realistic.

i buy now on weakness and sell whenever ANY profit is made.it is much safer to get rich slowly.
i wish good luck to all investors in ANY share.

Driver i'll pay but i think i must calm down or it'll cost me my profit..

Research Page updated (New Stuff at the bottom) 21/05/2005

http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=5042

A good reminder to all - take a read of the link.


http://www.fsa.gov.uk/consumer/08_INVESTMENTS/shares/mn_tips.html


Investment Share tips - don't believe the hype !

Investments
BULLETIN BOARDS AND CHAT ROOMS: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

Every day, thousands of messages are posted on internet bulletin boards and chat rooms offering tips on shares. Most of these tips are innocent - but WATCH OUT! Some may turn out to be bogus - or even scams.

What are they?

Bulletin boards and chat rooms are internet sites where professional and private investors alike can exchange views and news on the stock market. It's just the same as exchanging gossip in your local pub about companies to buy shares in. But ask yourself, do you always believe everything you hear in the pub?

The only difference is the speed at which these notes can be posted on the internet and the sheer numbers of people who can access the information worldwide. But don't forget, the person you're "chatting" to is a complete stranger and could be anyone.

Sounds innocent enough?

Yes, most of it is. But there have been cases in the United States of unscrupulous people using bulletin boards and chat rooms to 'talk up' companies in which they hold shares, in the hope of boosting the price. They then sell their shares and make a quick profit. Once they stop hyping the shares, the share price often plummets - this is known as pumping and dumping.

So what happens?

Imagine that you buy shares in a company which has been 'talked up' on a bulletin board. If the share price then falls, you will own shares which are worth considerably less than you paid for them. What goes up can also go down. If you get caught up in a pumping and dumping scam, you could lose money FAST.

Touting for business
Remember!

Stanelco 4p - no orders

TIP - SPIN - HYPE - RAMP

Stanelco now 29p - still no orders and potential for only 100 to 200 from Asda in total.

Classic pumping and dumping IMO - who sold out last week and who is left holding the can now.

For those who may have heard rumours of Tetrapak talks - the rumour is really that Frogpack potentially infriges on Tetrapak patents (you can search patents on www.freepatentsonline.com) - Tetrapak have many patents - Stanelco about 5 (search for yourself).

So - this is where the source of the rumour could well be coming from - its talk about patent infringement according to the rumour - well - they are appealing against a breach of confidence finding with another company - so does it surprise this new rumour ??

Must watch the footy - and do my post for tomorrow later.

Taken from the link below today

check it here for yourself
http://www.lemminginvestor.com/FreeStuff.html


Stanelco (SEO) 28.50p

Wal-Mart speculation - Market valuation

Since we initiated coverage of Stanelco, (SEO) at 5p on November 7, 2003. Due to the collaboration with Aquasol - A partnership that would enable detergent capsule manufacturers to become low-cost producers of detergent capsules for laundry and home care applications, whilst at the same time improving the quality of their products and speed of manufacture, also enable SEO to accelerate development plans for RF technology. The excitement
surrounding SEO now is due to SEO`s revolutionary GREENSEAL tray-lidding technology and the successful trials with ASDA. We now have unconfirmed BB gossip, which suggests Wal-Mart will soon follow ASDA. We know Wal-Mart have been watching ASDA`s lead.


Let us look at some facts
Though I have not seen a pack in the market place, there is little doubt that the ASDA trials have been successful. Had there been leakage, or some kind of adverse symptom, it would have been all over these pages. For the same reason, we must be looking at something like the promised 20% saving in packaging material cost and a lot higher saving in energy - Howard White is
quoting 75% and explains that the system seals at only 50 C degrees.

Looking at the whole of SEO 2004 losses as overhead on the current business, the accounts suggest a current maximum running at the rate of 3m /pa, possibly much lower. The current capitalisation of around 250m for a technology of such influence on the global economy is probably justified in our opinion by a PE of 30 and thus by a profit after tax of 8m. The asking rate for royalty of 35,000/pa is likely to reduce to 25,000 for ASDA type bulk contracts and
thus needs 320 machines to justify the 8m.

We have also heard that the hardware for retrofitting just about 'washes its face at $25,000 per installation' - but targets and hopefully leaves a one off profit of 5,000 - which should cover 50 -75% of the previous overheads and operating losses So the ASDA deal roughly sustains the current share price on its own. So whether Wal-mart makes an announcement or not, the price
reflects no more than the existing ASDA requirement. You get Frog Pack, Cradlewrap Aquasol,Adept Polymers and Starpol, Solutape,.... and Wal-mart for nothing. Not to mention that the market everyone is referring to is just Europe and N America. The world's second largest market lies in Japan - not yet mentioned nor is any of the packaging requirement in Taiwan, S.Korea, Australia N/Z, S.Africa, Brazil, etc etc..........None of these are yet factored in - probably because it is unrealistic to expect their requirements to be capable of being addressed for at least 2/3 years whilst SEO attain their stated objective to fit 27,000 machines and much less than
half of the global market by then.

cheers HM

superer- greetings,
it`s called reaching maturity agreeing with people, now I hesitate, indeed blush to wonder which one of us it is who has reached that Nirvana,

watch out for P&O next week- oh and short the Ftse100

and get plenty fresh air!

Typical of a Lemming to try to support the hype - do not Lemmings follow each other to the doom ? LOL
Lemming has been one of PM1s most useful assets in the pump of this and he is always referring to it - read my site and go to see some Lemmings.

In response to post 4524, encouraging investors to be cautious about BBs makes sense but to then to try to justify that by purposely mis-stating the potential of, for instance, the Asda deal (100-200 units!) shows that the purpose of the warning is being made for selfish gain , not out of any altruism. Most on this thread would take serious issue with being regarded as pumpers and dumpers, the more so, because it is an accusation made by a few who clearly want to short and smear SEO. SEO has the clear potential to really take off the moment it can confirm to the market its first order. I doubt that it will be long before that happens.

Virtually all of us want SEO to succeed both short and long term, to stay with it and be happy for others to join what should be a very enjoyable ride as the company gets its IPR into products directly or via licences. The lack of further news last week should not in my view be seen as cause for concern; better to take the time to get the deal you want rather than rush it and regret it later.

Attempts to quantify the financial gain from the companys products by some have been helpful, interesting and useful. Ive tried as well but have given up until the company can show what terms it can get; it just looks very rosy for SEO whatever reasonable assumptions are made. In my opinion any calculations made now and which might be believed as credible will probably turn out to be far too conservative as this unfolds; there are just so many areas and applications for SEO to go at with their product range.

A mention in the telegraph yesterday:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2005/05/20/cxmktrep20.xml&sSheet=/money/2005/05/20/ixfrontmarkets.html

Companies dont grow solidly in todays climate until they make a PROFIT and give back cash to investors usually via dividends, the short term rises from over enthusiasm rarely stick for long, with noteable exceptions, maybe this is one who knows.
I and other cautious folk have as good a chance of being correct as those who
yell 1 tomorrow.
Its never out of place to remind investors that you are merely buying future dividend returns, not some pie in the sky vision by " experts", no matter how bright they are about the mechanics of the product-Telewest, Marconi,etc. all had good products

PER ARDUA AD ASTRA

if, and it seems to be the number seo are promoting, asda sign up for retro-fit on 200 machines, that means they are perfectly willing to sign over 50% of their packaging needs to seo and greenseal. (asda have 400 machines). that's not bad for a first deal.

"Companies dont grow solidly in todays climate until they make a PROFIT and give back cash to investors usually via dividends, the short term rises from over enthusiasm rarely stick for long, with noteable exceptions, maybe this is one who knows."

i'll qoute sequestor as he does talk some sense . maybe seo is one. thats what some here believe, that's why we have INVESTED our money in seo. most here have a long term view. short term price hikes are wonderful and exciting , short term price dips are disappointing. BUT WHAT A RIDE!! as has been said before, if want to wait for solid growth ,profits, and dividends, cash in the bank and a full order book; fantastic! if you like the story, buy now and leave it for a few years. it's your money.

btw, what a good looking graph!!!

Chap called Truckingduck on ADVFN just came up with a great anagram for Stanelco - CANT LOSE

Utterly irrelevant I know, but I like it.

very good , chiva.

Here is another

STALE CON!!!!!

or

LEAST CON!!!

Taken from the link below today

check it here for yourself
http://www.lemminginvestor.com/FreeStuff.html


Stanelco (SEO) 28.50p

Wal-Mart speculation - Market valuation

Since we initiated coverage of Stanelco, (SEO) at 5p on November 7, 2003. Due to the collaboration with Aquasol - A partnership that would enable detergent capsule manufacturers to become low-cost producers of detergent capsules for laundry and home care applications, whilst at the same time improving the quality of their products and speed of manufacture, also enable SEO to accelerate development plans for RF technology. The excitement
surrounding SEO now is due to SEO`s revolutionary GREENSEAL tray-lidding technology and the successful trials with ASDA. We now have unconfirmed BB gossip, which suggests Wal-Mart will soon follow ASDA. We know Wal-Mart have been watching ASDA`s lead.


Let us look at some facts
Though I have not seen a pack in the market place, there is little doubt that the ASDA trials have been successful. Had there been leakage, or some kind of adverse symptom, it would have been all over these pages. For the same reason, we must be looking at something like the promised 20% saving in packaging material cost and a lot higher saving in energy - Howard White is
quoting 75% and explains that the system seals at only 50 C degrees.

Looking at the whole of SEO 2004 losses as overhead on the current business, the accounts suggest a current maximum running at the rate of 3m /pa, possibly much lower. The current capitalisation of around 250m for a technology of such influence on the global economy is probably justified in our opinion by a PE of 30 and thus by a profit after tax of 8m. The asking rate for royalty of 35,000/pa is likely to reduce to 25,000 for ASDA type bulk contracts and
thus needs 320 machines to justify the 8m.

We have also heard that the hardware for retrofitting just about 'washes its face at $25,000 per installation' - but targets and hopefully leaves a one off profit of 5,000 - which should cover 50 -75% of the previous overheads and operating losses So the ASDA deal roughly sustains the current share price on its own. So whether Wal-mart makes an announcement or not, the price
reflects no more than the existing ASDA requirement. You get Frog Pack, Cradlewrap Aquasol,Adept Polymers and Starpol, Solutape,.... and Wal-mart for nothing. Not to mention that the market everyone is referring to is just Europe and N America. The world's second largest market lies in Japan - not yet mentioned nor is any of the packaging requirement in Taiwan, S.Korea, Australia N/Z, S.Africa, Brazil, etc etc..........None of these are yet factored in - probably because it is unrealistic to expect their requirements to be capable of being addressed for at least 2/3 years whilst SEO attain their stated objective to fit 27,000 machines and much less than
half of the global market by then.

cheers HM

SEO sp is a good ride but never been so relaxed about a share that I own, down days don't frighten me, just buying opportunites. Every time I think about the massive potential in so many areas I wish I'd had the courage to invest even more money last year, never mind mustn't grumble. My only problem is that this thread is now going round and round with same points being made over and over again in defence against the traders. Sequestor's point is that if it does go tits up the sp will suffer, valid but the point that a penny share can't be worth a quid is not. Check out the potential profits and there is also no way that a tech share turning in huge profits will have a PE <5. We'll just have to wait and see who is right but its a long term hold for me, the potential and future is just too exciting to get out now.