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PS shame we lost the decent half of the Welsh contingent tomorrow - huge toss to win - win it and bat properly we can be all but safe after 4 sessions - lose the toss and we could be staring it in the face for 5 days.

Come on Ponting - tails never fails!!!!!

Steve

Disagree with you on the world class point, although they have to be on form to justify that tag, which they are not. I certainly think that Beckham, Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard, Terry would have little problem fitting into most countries teams and Robinson is turning out not too bad. We do have the potential to be a great team, but I fear that potential will never be realise whilst Sven is in charge. All this technical crap is all very well, but we were turned over tonight by a team that played with passion and committment, most of whom would not get a run out in a premiership side. Personally I think we should play in the same vein, but you will not get that when the manager looks like he doesn't give a shit!

pth

PS Hope the knee is bearing up and you will be out on the course soon.

Fundy ... Sale Sharks coach from Ebbooo .... tell Kingsley I send my love :-)

And prop (if still there) Ben Coutts ... Ebboooo player last year.

Dil

If i knew they were coached by one of your lot.......


PTH

were gonna have to agree to disagree - imo:
Beckham, decent passer and dead ball specialist but struggled to fit into a team ethic since united
Gerrard, good but not great, doesnt seem to know his role in the England side
Rooney, still all hype that the stats dont back up. Doesnt score anywhere near enough goals and is often too selfish - lucky his temper hasnt got him into more trouble than it has so far
Terry, quality English centre half

compare this to Brazil - Ronaldinho, Robinho, Adriano, Ronaldo, Emerson, Kaka, Ze Roberto etc etc etc - no comparison in my book.

the big problems the current england team have is lack of a proper striker who can hold the ball up, lack of width and a general lack of pace through the team but especially in midfield
Lampard, overrated pure and simple - gets most of the credit at Chelski that should go to Makele and looks lost without him

Knees a lot better though knackered the back when moving - still the physio's very nice :-)

Not just coached .... he often drinks with us :-)

pt ... in a way your right.

Welsh rugby had the flair coached out of it ... this year same players different coach who believed in letting the players "instincts" do it and voila !

England have always had the players but never the right coaches ... Clough was the biggest one that got away but not sure who they can turn to if they get shot of Sven at this stage.

Wegner probably the best.

Dil

Why would Wenger drop down a level ?

I think a lot comes down to how you play and interact as a team. I landed the bum job of sports leader at school but managed to get a great bunch of guys together for the footy team and from being the laughing stock of the local league we finished only one goal away from winning it.

I'm still proud many years on about what we achieved. All I did was dump the prima donnas out of the team and put people in who really cared, who wanted to win and who had awareness and vision about their team mates. Any lack of respect or awareness for anybody and they were out on their ear never to return. None of us were great footballers but together we were a great team. People just didn't know how to play against us because we were almost telepathic when we played.

Backed Agassi last night, although top tip, check start times before placing bet. Wasn't going to stay up till 4 in the morning, so just had to let it run. Phew. LoL!!

pth

Well profit made on England match but by accident as I laid the draw and 0-0, 1-1 thinking an England win was assured. Sweated out the last 10 mins though.
On another topic - saw an ad in a paper in Spain for this http://agents.arbmirage.co.uk - offering a business supplying this software and 1000 euros per week from just 15 customers who use Betfair.

Yes!!!!! Vaughan wins toss and bats

Collingwood plays for the injured welshman

"On another topic - saw an ad in a paper in Spain for this http://agents.arbmirage.co.uk - offering a business supplying this software and 1000 euros per week from just 15 customers who use Betfair. "

Looks like they are promoting an affiliate scheme. I am just about to set up a scheme for Bet Angel, we have just been wating to get the payment side of things worked through.

IMHO Arb mirage is way too expensive. The next upgrade to Bet Angel will mimic exactly the same features at ArbMirage but also add another layer of functionality. Also, this sort of arbing is no where near as risk free as people imply. I'll try to record a video of the issues when the software is ready for release.

I was in the car and praying for England to win the toss. First time ever I have tuned into the radio to listen to somebody tossing a coin.

It has been raining in this part of the Cotswolds for about an hour - wasn't forecast either. What price the draw now? 3.15 I think I'll have a slice of that, thankyou.

compoundup there is better odds on the draw in the village then betfair

compo my mistake i was looking at the wrong col sorry

This is funny.

http://www.radioireland.ie/audio/giftjose.wma

Very funny, Jose is quite a good singer isn't he?

Indeed he is, but the Damien Duff ad has made me wanna change my insurance.
He is a very talented man. Jose is the 'special one' though.

Wilbs

brilliant!!!!


s*** - Freddies out