50v dc is what you're looking for on the neg & pos. How old is your wiring? A further complication (you might find old evidence of it) on old installations was that there was an earth for shared service lines :-)))) One sub signalled to the exchange on one leg and one on the other. Probably all ripped out now. Hmmmm thinking about it that could have been what the brown was used for.

It's all flooding back Captain Mainwaring!!!

Kayak. I haven't done the registry addition yet. I started G & T's early yesterday and didn't feel up to it today :-(
A clear head needed for us amateurs methinks.

B.

Any voltage on the bell?

TP

From memory 75v AC but only when someone rings you . It makes your tabs laugh!

So not usually.

Thanks B.

Will have a tinker over the weekend.

TP

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Aha Spaceman :-)

See http://www.phonesockets.co.uk/shopping/

External Telephone Cable - 2 Pair Black
External Cable Clips - BLACK
Jelly Crimps (wire connectors 8B)

75v AC plus the 48v DC I think Bolshi. Don't stand in water while working on the phones :-)

BT ADSL NTE5 faceplate adaptor

SC, the ADSLNation faceplate I gave a link to earlier is said to be much better than the BT one, and that is my experience too. This thread contains info on faceplates.

K excellent find thanks, I have ordered some and I also got one of their punchdown tools as they look OK.

A little trick for anyone after a BT NTE5 faceplate, if you happen to have an intermittent problem with your ADSL, say one that does not seem to show up on the BT tests or when they visit, its worth suggesting to them that they change your master socket and put a faceplate in. I have managed to get a couple of them this way ! the engineers often know far less about ADSL than you expect and they are happy to try anything ! they are getting much better now though....

K and B,

I'm not going to be able to disconnect the bell as the govenor has become used to it now. I am not convinced that it is the root of my problem as I walk around the flat with my AM radio. There seems to be a run of mains cable that produces a lot of interference.

Anyway life will go on. I have ADSL and a WiFi link in my study. That deals with my laptop and more importantly with my PDA which is a godsend for checking for incoming e:mails as it does not need the inevitable boot up time of the PC.

When I put another PC at the other end of the flat I'll simply put in another ADSL modem and WiFi router.

Thanks for all your ideas.

TP

"I'll simply put in another ADSL modem and WiFi router"

Well you can do that, but you'll need another phone line of course if you want to use the modems at the same time.

Another solution is to have a second router acting as repeater, i.e. connecting to the other router as a bridge. Some routers will do this and not others. It's not something I know anything about though.

K.

I'd forgotten that.

I already have a pair of those Devlo jobbies that transmit an ethernet signal though the mains. Whether my mains already is over cluttered with info I'd have to find out the hard way. I believe I can then connect the remote end to a WiFi router and have WiFi at the other end of the flat.

So it is ADSL WiFi router to Devlo to Devlo through the mains to a second router with WiFi.

OK?

TP

I have no idea TP.

TP that sounds like a recipe for disaster to me, when I read your post 4541 above I thought to myself Is he using mains carried Ethernet! which is known to cause EMI.

I would recommend that you simplify your setup, unless you have a huge house you don't need 2 wireless routers, my personal recommendation would be a wired ADSL Modem/router (with firewall) then connected to that via an Ethernet cable a wireless AP (which could be a router configured as an AP). The AP could be some way from the router. It difficult to recommend more without understanding the layout and requirements.

Yes I thought about the mains Ethernet too, but I think he did say earlier that he had excluded that as the source of his problem.

S & K,

What's an AP please?

I heed your warning about using the Devlos.

Remember I do need WiFi as I want to be able to use my PDA for quick message checks. And I need that WiFi at both ends of the apartment which is too long for one WiFi to feed to the other end.

I have sockets at either end, but only one phone line.

TP

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AP = Access Point, i.e. WiFi connected to a modem, so what you have at the moment.

Not sure about the geography of your flat but I don't suppose an AP put in the middle of the flat would work.

TP, as K says AP is Access point this can be a dedicated device that can only be an AP or often its a full router which is only doing AP work (that's what I have).

Some of the new WiFi devices have much better range and ability to work through walls etc however these tend to be a bit non standard, I use a Belkin Pre N router as an AP in my house in Hastings and its on the top Floor of 3 and I get a strong signal everywhere in the house (I also use a PDA and a laptop). These newer wifi devices are often known as Pre N or Mimo or other names. The problem with them is that they may well become obsolete soon when the full 802.11N standard released, as their is no guarantee that they will be upgradable. You don't need an N card to work with an N wifi AP (or Router) they will also work as B or G devices.