Brown's spend, spend, spend during his Chancellor's days has brought us into the current economy we are facing today. His appeal at a Downing Street meeting for the lenders to pass on cuts appeared to fall on deaf ears with HBOS, which owns the Halifax, increasing its rate on some mortgages from 6.09 to 6.59 per cent. Borrowers taking out this type of deal will now pay 46 more a month. On a two-year tracker, the rate will increase from 1.49 points above base rate to 1.99 points, giving a current rate of 6.99 per cent.

Other lenders are expected to follow Halifaxs lead.

If the Government wants the banks to lower mortgage rates to home owners - why not just offer them through Northern Rock? Everyone would rush to the Rock to get the loans forcing banks to match the rates or lose the business? Or maybe the government would then run into bigger credit crunch?

Chuf,


Just looked up Canute
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King of Denmark and Norway who forced Edmund II to divide England with him; on the death of Edmund II.
Canute became king of all England (994-1035).
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Sounds quite like what Wisteria is trying to accomplish.

I believe a better comparison would be Gordon Brown to Neville Chamberlain. Neville Chamberlain was the only Prime Minister to be forced out of office having never fought a general election as he took over unelected from Baldwin when he retired in 1937.

Frank Field just entered the fray again with an interesting comment about next general election (see order-order.com)

I hope the Labour rebels would nail the last nail on his coffin this evening.

Rumours that Purnell will stand- stalking horse?

Purnell is more like a wooden horse.

I doubt that the Labour party would be stupid enough to bring GB down before May 2010.

By the way, how many leaders have the tories had over the last 5 -10 years.

Watch the euro splitters start their work.

Come on Ken speak your mind!

i wouldnt ride purnell!! but i would a wooden horse.

purnell looks like a small boy in primary school

Gus
Just read Frank Field's comments. At least there is someone with some shred of integrity and honesty left who is not cowed by the bully-boy tactics of the whips and other political thugs who do the dirty-work of the leadership of the most self-serving, incompetent, arrogant, corrupt political dregs of the last 30 or 40 years.

stalin would have had the whole lot shot including brown and darling. stalin would despise browns huge pension and brown and darling misuse of expenses or housing.......death is the only consequence for this

Cameron is probably hoping for Gordon to hang on as he has an edge on him and also guarantee him on the course for a landslide victory in the next election.

Brown is very prone to gaffes, mistakes and calamaties so Cameron is quite possibly biding his time. Whatever went on yesterday the party lackeys will still try to serve their own self interest and at the first sign of any hiccup with Brown they will all jump on him again. It's only a matter of time before it all falls apart.

This whole thing stinks. To me, the whole purpose of this may be to hold out so that the Lisbon Treaty can be ratified without giving the electorate a referendum. If the Tories were in Government before ratification a referendum would be held. All hell could be let loose over this in a few months as this begins to be realised by the public in general.

In spite of all the huffing and puffing, it seems that GB has survived to fight again.

I wonder if the labour party will be invigorated by the past few months, knock a few heads together and be allowed to publish their future policies.

Also, interesting to see what the "expenses" and financial clean up of the parliament will produce.

Think Wisteria has blown it.

I don't think we could have an election before october anyway because of the looong summer break they all need! They just want to hang on now for max pensions and pay offs. Whoever gets in will have a nasty mess to deal with and the electorate will not like the medicine---repeat of the Thatcher scenario! She had the guts to see it through will Cameron and Osborne?

At least Cameron may give us a parliament for England without those north of the border being allowed to vote on English matters.

Little England needs every possible help to take decisions about its problems.

I don't think Eton produces an adequately educated group for doing it by themselves.

Without the Celts the English would be lost.
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I think you would find that old Etonians make up some of the best educated people in the UK.

A handful of the many famous people who have been to Eton

Robert Boyle 1627 - 1691 Boyle's Law
John Frederick William Herschel 1792 - 1871 Astronomer
John Maynard Keynes 1883 - 1946 Economist
Sir Ranulph Fiennes 1944 ) Explorer
Captain Lawrence Oates 18801912 Explorer
Humphrey Littleton 1921 - 2008 Musician
Aldous Huxley 18941963 Writer
Sir Ludovic Kennedy 1919 Broadcaster
Peter Benenson 1921 Founder of Amnesty International
Thomas Lynch Jnr 17491779 Signatory of the American Declaration of Independence

37 Old Etonians have won the Victoria Cross

The SNP continue to win against labour in Scotland, thus eroding the labour power base which enables them to rule England. Unless new/old labour can retain seats in England they will be wiped out by this "pincer" movement at the forthcoming general election.

I have to admit I did admire Humphrey and a few of the others mentioned.
I am not certain that 37 Victoria crosses has much to do with intelligence, but some of the others mentioned certainly have had intellectual ability.

But would have expected a far broader and lengthy a list for more than 27,000 a year. (ie. without any extras.)

I suppose the present and long may it last "shadow cabinet" could be call the Etonian second team or perhaps the Burlington Club seconds.

Even Haystack may wish there is a God if this shadow, or shallow lot ever got into power.






















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