Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i would be very surprised indeed if carswell did not get elected ..... from what i have heard, he is an excellent speaker and has commanded much respect in the constituency and will/would be returned regardless of party affiliation

UK government intervenes in Ashya King case as CPS reassesses extradition

Cameron and Clegg join calls to have boy reunited with parents as government contacts police and health officials over case



Patrick Wintour, Peter Walker and Matthew Weaver


theguardian.com, Tuesday 2 September 2014 14.22 BST



Prosecution authorities are reviewing their move to extradite the parents of Ashya King, the five-year-old cancer patient in hospital in Spain after he was taken from hospital in Southampton. Meanwhile, the government has contacted police and health officials to see whether Ashya can be reunited with his mother and father.

The new interventions follow mounting calls for Brett and Naghmeh King, held in separate prisons near Madrid, to be brought to Málaga, where Ashya is being cared for at a children's hospital. The couple had taken the boy from Southampton general hospital without doctors' consent and say they want alternative treatment abroad for his brain tumour.

David Cameron's spokesman said the Home Office had been in touch with Hampshire police force over the case, while the Department of Health contacted Southampton hospital. The hospital first raised the alarm on Thursday after Ashya was taken away.

Downing Street stressed the need for judicial authorities to be able to operate independently of politicians, but it is clear that Cameron shares the concerns expressed by Nick Clegg that the handling of the case has been heavy-handed.

Earlier on Tuesday the deputy prime minister questioned why the "full force of the law" was being used against the parents and called for the family to be reunited.



more: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/02/ashya-king-clegg-criticises-full-force-law

Cynic Dougie is a nice chap but you have to be sure if hes talking to you or the bloke next to you.

no one ever talks to me :-(

Me neither, your best doing what I do and just post your own ramblings to a single thread or blog...!

perhaps we could hold hands :-)

Introducing Ultimo's "Real Women for 2014":

They need to get in shape.

Was thinking this tea time the female news readers on the BBC are getting a bit long in the tooth now and looking disheveled, even Fiona Bruce looks past it now.

I say we need some new crackling in.

What about these below just to kick start a new regime.

Suzi Perry, Gabby Logan, and Frank Lampards bird.

Just about the right age so I cant be accused of being ageist etc etc.

Yes, lets do it for the men too.

Whats needed is a few male teenagers with puffed up hairdo's to read the news (assuming they can reed). It would also help if they were as thick as shit, just like the present line up of bimbo's. (blond)(from a bottle)

Fiona Bruce was never that hot anyway. I remember sitting behind her at a school concert. Her head is strange from behind. It is almost flat. The parents at my kids prep school had to take turns being on the school front door and getting kids out of cars turning up. It was quite surreal the first time she appear at the door of our people carrier one morning. She is very tall and used to win the parents race on sports day.

Max who mentioned teenagers, Gabby Logan is 41, Suzi Perry is 44.

This is what I said gf, in the interests of gender balance.


"male teenagers with puffed up hairdo's to read the news"

Whatever floats your boat Max.......he he.

Just checked and the 'Reunite Ashya with his parents' petition has now reached just under 250,000 votes.

I'm so glad I signed this petition and I'm so pleased it helped get the desired result and that there has now been a change of plan with the CPS dropping the all the charges against the parents.

Clearly, this couple were not evil and were very clearly just fighting hard to do the best they could for their little boy. They now have massive support for that effort. In the space of 24 hours, they have gone from being 'criminally hunted down zeroes' to 'parental heroes'.

Let's see what the Judge has to say today about which treatment the little chap will be getting and where. I do actually think, that reuniting little Ashya with his family members is going to reinvigorate him enormously. That is, if his frail little body can stand all of the trauma.

Fingers crossed.

I think the 200k + votes might have had something to do with the politicians getting their fingers out.

It wont stop the turds behind the debacle though.

Anything subject that attracts 200k+ supporters is usually populist nonsense. The public are notoriously wrong in such 'band wagon' matters. The hospital behaved as they should as did the police. The only person that needs consideration is the boy. He clearly has idiots for parents. They could have resolved matters sensibly instead of removing him from care. They are better off in prison.

The proton beam treatment is what the parents want despite it being against the clinical opinion of the doctors. You have to ask why. The proton beam treatment is non invasive and would not require a blood transfusion which is against the parents' wishes as they are Jehovah Witnesses. Maybe some thought should be given to the possibility that the parents are putting their religion before the clinical care of their child.

If the 'hospital experts' haven't properly comunicated with the parents and the parents read/heard about the Proton Beam method of treatment, then it may be, that the parents believed more in the latter than the former.

But the UK hospital didn't 'do that method', so how the hell can they support another treatment method, which they don't do and aren'tfamiliar with?

Tip: If you don't 100% believe what your health professional is telling you, particularly if he is going to earn a fee from your treatment, then DO NOT EVER BE AFRAID TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I've changed consultants about three times and, including dentistry, my wife has changed her health professional about five times.

For me, I'm talking, for example, heart artery treatment for atheroma. I chose to use Ultrasound to have the atheroma blasted off. That was 20 years ago. I don't have a stent in any coronary arteries. The first consultant had never even heard of it.

As an example for my wife, she was going to go ahead with one method of treatment for a problematical varicose vein on her leg - and then found a NEW much more technically superior method. Obviously, this required a change of consultant.

Haystack, I do not agree with your comment about the hospital behaving as they should. Clearly they made a gross error of judgment, possibly based on the hospital's own limited resources for treatment or on a particular senior consultant's limited area of expertise (and hence bias).

It will be interesting to see what the Judge decides about treatment for Ayash. Which method will he choose? Will it be the Proton Beam or back to the original hospital?

The NHS does pay for the therapy.

The NHS refers some patients to the US or Switzerland for treatment - 122 in 2013, 99 of them children. Patients are assessed by a panel of experts, who look at the tumour type, position, severity and so on.

The parents just wanted to go against advice.

Dr Yen-Ching Chang, the lead on proton beam therapy at University College London Hospital, has told the BBC she believes UK patients with the highest needs probably have one of the most comprehensive levels of access to proton beam therapy in Europe.

"The parents just wanted to go against advice."

No. They did not. That is not the right way to say it.

The parents did not want to go with the hospital's advice. They had heard of another method of treatment, namely the Proton Beam method.

The hospital could not do this. How on earth could they talk about Proton Beam treatment (or even recommend it without shipping Ashya out to somewhere else) and of course, treatment was required urgently.