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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 02 Nov 2009 11:38 - 4552 of 21973

that's interesting .... i see that Dow blipped down to 9644 during the night, hitting the "mysterious" 9650 and bouncing off it ...... keep watching with fingers crossed and breath held

ThePublisher - 02 Nov 2009 14:43 - 4553 of 21973

jkd and dd,

Is it not the same logic that warns you about capital protection.

Lose 25% and you need to gain 33% to get even.
Lose 50% and you need to gain 100% to be back where you were.

Except that you were looking at the reverse.

TP

Stan - 02 Nov 2009 15:37 - 4554 of 21973

Don't forget it's "Non Farm Payrolls" Friday at the end of this week all.

HARRYCAT - 02 Nov 2009 15:41 - 4555 of 21973

Trouble is, it's not a question of the figures being bad, but whether they are worse than expected. So, anyone know what we should be expecting???

skinny - 02 Nov 2009 15:50 - 4556 of 21973

Non farm payroll - forecast is -165k previous -263k.

HARRYCAT - 02 Nov 2009 15:54 - 4557 of 21973

Thanks skinny. Now all we need is the help of a corruptible congressman to give us the inside info before it hits the press!

jimmy b - 02 Nov 2009 16:23 - 4558 of 21973

HARRY :-)

dealerdear - 03 Nov 2009 08:30 - 4559 of 21973

The market has been very nervous about the banks the last couple of weeks.

I'm wondering now whether today's news actually underpins everything and over the next few days (perhaps after an initial drop) we will start to see some significant movement northwards.

HARRYCAT - 03 Nov 2009 12:14 - 4560 of 21973

I think the market is correcting itself now, so even though there is the odd crumb of good news, it isn't enough to turn the trend around.
I am cashing in most of my shares which are in profit & will sit on that cash until I think the market has turned up again. Most likely some time after the friday U.S. figures.

Today's FT : RBS cheif strategist:
"Outlook:
We said in late Aug that S&P would get to 1100/1120 by end Oct/early Nov. We said growth would peak in Aug and then weaken (see above) into and in Q1. This is all playing out. As this plays out, I expect S&P to be in the mid-900s by y/e, and mid/low 800s by Q1 2010. Credit spreads will weaken materially, IG will do better than HY, QUALITY (strong balance sheets) will be the winner. I look for 750 Crossover by late 2009/early 2010, and then further weakness as Q1 unfolds. Govvies shud rally - I prefer BUNDS to USTs or GILTS. The USD will probably rally,
but I dislike any currency where PMs are simply printing. GOLD please.
GET DEFENSIVE RE RISK."

skinny - 03 Nov 2009 13:51 - 4561 of 21973

House prices up 1.2% in October
Business Financial Newswire
UK House prices rose by 1.2% last month, according to the Halfiax Building Society.

This is the fourth consecutive month that the Society has recorded an increase.

Nationally, house prices are now 7.1% higher than they were six months ago at the trough of the market but they are still 4.7% loweer than they were a year ago.

Halifax's senior economist Martin Ellis says: There are some indications that more people are deciding to put their homes on the market, encouraged by the recent improvement in market conditions.

"A continuation of this trend could help to improve the balance between supply and demand, curbing the strength of the stimulus to house prices resulting from the current imbalance."

cynic - 03 Nov 2009 14:13 - 4562 of 21973

Dow 9650 quite probably to be challenged again today ...... hope for a bounce, and a sustained one at that

ThePublisher - 03 Nov 2009 15:05 - 4563 of 21973

"hope for a bounce, and a sustained one at that"

How about some pretties whilst we wait.....

Can't offer you the Dow as I don't track that. But I can show you the S&P 500.

All three charts are showing 3 box reversals. The middle one is a 1% box size which is what most people would use. You'll see the drop to the line that should support and bounce. It has in the past, you'll see.

The top chart is a 0.5% box. Smaller than the norm, but still showing bounce lines that worked.

My bottom chart is 1.5% boxes. Larger than one would normally use and showing now a fight at resistance.

So, Cynic, the vote is two out of three for your bounce.



TP

dealerdear - 03 Nov 2009 15:18 - 4564 of 21973

Thanks for that TP and very pretty it looks too.

Let's hope you're right!

cynic - 03 Nov 2009 19:09 - 4565 of 21973

and reality as i write is that Dow is pretty much b/e ..... let's hope it sustains it and consolidates above once more

ThePublisher - 03 Nov 2009 19:29 - 4566 of 21973

And my S&P is modestly positive at 19.29.

TP

KEAYDIAN - 03 Nov 2009 20:03 - 4567 of 21973

Dow falling.

HARRYCAT - 04 Nov 2009 13:09 - 4568 of 21973

Volatile markets & DOW futures still in positive territory, though drifting.
Looks as though todays rise should be sustained, but with lots of employment data due from the U.S.over the next few days, my guess is that profit taking will be dominant again at the end of the week. Chartists will probably disagree!

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 13:50 - 4569 of 21973

relatively good numbers just out in US re jobless etc has given Dow futures a healthy boost ...... would be nice if it doesn't all play silly buggers later on!

skinny - 05 Nov 2009 13:56 - 4570 of 21973

Dow futures still 30 below where they were at our close last night.

cynic - 05 Nov 2009 13:58 - 4571 of 21973

can't comment .... can only tell you that Dow cash is currently +65 at 9870
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