Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Writing is on the bedroom wall for the Tories as they lose landmark vote

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Sep 2014
Posted by Mike Sivier in Bedroom Tax

The Conservative Party has been humiliated in the first major Parliamentary vote since the summer recess – on a Private Member’s Bill to exempt disabled people from the Bedroom Tax.

Liberal Democrat Andrew George’s Bill proposed modest reforms, laid out by Vox Political in an article yesterday evening.

The debate lasted nearly four hours – and would have continued if a Tory filibuster had been successful. The Conservatives wanted to ‘talk out’ the Bill but their proposal was defeated by 304 votes to 237 – a majority of 67 votes.

This set the scene for an even greater defeat when MPs were asked on whether to approve the second reading of the bill. This time the Conservatives lost by a greater majority of 75 votes – the ‘ayes’ had it with 306 votes to 231 against.

Desperately, Jacob Rees-Mogg tried to refer the Bill to a select committee, rather than the normal committee stage. It failed by 28 votes.

An even more desperate attempt to refer the Bill to a Committee of the Whole House was rejected out of hand by Deputy Speaker Dawn Primarolo as out of order.

The Tories had also tried to derail the Bill at the start of the day’s business by moving a motion to hold the debate in private. This was defeated out of hand – only three MPs voted in favour of it – but it wasted a good 15 minutes of debating time.

Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Rachel Reeves tweeted: “Labour will now seek to amend the bill to scrap the Bedroom Tax completely. But an important victory… for all those paying it today.”

So the writing is on the wall for the Conservative Party. Shipley MP and imbecile Philip Davies asked if this meant the Coalition had come to an end. Let us hope so.

In that case, this will be the first of many defeats, leading up to a rout at the 2015 General Election.

Populus this morning has topline figures of CON 32%, LAB 38%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 4%

I read that last poll as yet more coalition government.

Because of recent defections, one can surely say, that UKIP are much more likely to align with CON:

32% + 14% = 46% (A)

So what will the LDEM do?

If they align with LAB, we have 38% + 8%. This also = 46% (B)

If they align with CON, we have 46% (A) + 8% = 54% (ie a coalition majority)

Thus everything is to play for, for some time yet.

Nigel Farage earns the Rupert Murdoch seal of approval in impromptu Manhattan meeting






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Friday 05 September 2014



Rupert Murdoch’s long history of calculated meddling in British politics has taken a new turn with the media baron calling a snap meeting with Nigel Farage in Manhattan.



In a gesture that will give David Cameron something extra to think about as he attended the NATO summit in Wales, the News Corp boss summoned the Ukip leader to his office for a private discussion.

The talks, which have been confirmed by Ukip, took place after Mr Farage had finished recording interviews at Mr Murdoch’s Fox News television network.

According to website Breitbart London, the Ukip leader’s invitation to meet Mr Murdoch was passed on during an advertisement break by presenter Neil Cavuto with the words: “Sir, the boss wants to see you. The big boss.”



More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/nigel-farage-earns-the-rupert-murdoch-seal-of-approval-in-impromptu-manhattan-meeting-9715259.html

If UKIP do get 14% of the vote nationwide, it will equate to 0% or close to it as a share of MPs. That means UKIP will not be a coalition partner with any party.

The reason why the tumour boy is being allowed to go to Prague, is that Southampton permitted it provided that he has one round of chemotherapy before the proton beam treatment. This was their requirement all along. Southampton's agreement with the chemotherapy requirement is why the high court allowed the boy to go.

Well you were wrong on how many MPs they would have Hays, you said NIL, very likely they will have 2 now at least.

Anyway its going to be an overal Labour Majority unless of course the Scots cock things up and I wouldnt put it past them.

Anyway Hays have you seen the time, you should be still in bed.

Hopefully we may get shot of the Scots soon. I am fed up of their moaning. If they don't leave then we should remove the designation of 'Scotland' and rename the area Northern England.

Yes, if Wee Eck has his way, then that will change everything.

40+ tory majority

Watching F1 on BBC2. Hamilton fastest in this practice with Rosberg having gearbox trouble stuck in garage.

Her indoors just got the holiday snaps sorted. Our joint in Ibiza, looks very nice at night............

"Hamilton fastest in this practice with Rosberg having gearbox trouble stuck in garage."

Great news! Come on England! Well, albeit in a German car......

Hehehehehe

:-)

"The general principle which every member state of the European Union has subscribed to is that people fleeing persecution should apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach.

"France used to take this very seriously. When I was home secretary we had an agreement with France under which if people came to the United Kingdom from France and claimed asylum we would return them to France, and France dealt with their claim, and that's what really ought to happen."

The former Conservative Party leader said France had "lost control of its borders" because it was a member of the Schengen Agreement.

Lord Howard added: "Some French governments have recognised this. President Sarkozy, in 2012, threatened to withdraw France from the Schengen Agreement if other countries didn't take measures to control their borders.

"So the mayor of Calais ought to be directing her frustration at President Hollande, and getting him to take the kind of action that President Sarkozy was talking about.

45535 - first read this post and then consider that within the last 4/5 months the world's shipments of chemicals has almost come to a standstill .... thus storage depots in f/e and m/e are at bursting point with shipping containers, and the indian traffic has also died a death

ignore it at your peril

Can you expand on that (# 45550) c?

Yes C please expand or are you still on the legal highs.

Unlike the illegal TAs you believe in.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746369/We-ll-guards-Scottish-border-Ed-Miliband-reveals-incendiary-plan-new-poll-reveals-vote-knife-edge.html

We'll put guards on Scottish border: Ed Miliband reveals incendiary plan as Yes camp leads for first time in shock new poll

Labour leader revealed passport checks 'would have to be looked at'
His spokesman: 'It would be up to us to secure our northern border'
It defies Alex Salmond's claim that Scotland could enjoy free movement
Shock claims come just 11 days before history-making referendum
Poll for Sunday Times puts Yes camp ahead on 51% to No camp's 49%

Rebuild Hadrians Wall.

Nice big boost to the building trade, and keep out the Jocks at the same time.

win win

Max,

I would think there are many who would help you re-build the wall and quite a few who would like to fill Rotter's Dyke!

It would protect them from the little englanders and other tory camp followers!