bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
blackbelt
- 22 May 2005 11:48
- 4555 of 27111
Ultimately you live by your own decisions, the people who are sitting on a multi-bag investment will get out with a good profit no matter how the price goes. However, it was these shrewd investors that took on an extremely higher level of risk when this was at rock bottom where the potential of total capital loss was a high possibility. I only got in at the late teens and early 20s and am adult enough to live by my own decisions no matter how this pans out.
If this suffers short term profit taking due to lack of news or speculators, long term these fluctuations will be eradicated. I sold 30% of my holding late last week with the objective of increasing my holding this week at no extra cost. If it rockets or falls ive covered my back both ways. If investors can't deal rationally with their own decisions they should'nt be on the stock market least of all in blue skiers. I've learnt the hard way as im sure many on this board will agree but if investors are prepared to hang on for the ride it should reap rewards for patience IMO.
Good luck, don't be sucked in or scared out DYOR
bosley
- 22 May 2005 12:49
- 4556 of 27111
superrod, you can get the facts and figures and do and donts on any thread on moneyam bbs. personally, i enjoyed the banter and chit chat when the price went into its big yawn periods. we have also discussed the negative points and potetntial downside .IIdiot and his posts arn't needed, but going off his form i am very happy to see his name appearing. every point about seo has been covered on this thread. if life is too short to go back to the start and read the thread from the beginning, then you are not really doing the research.
blackbelt, well put. investing and trading are two different strategies and maybe that's why there seems to be a touch of friction appearing.
EWRobson
- 22 May 2005 13:51
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Coming back to the downside risk raised by superrod. I do scan the II posts and still maintain they are throughly biased and unbalanced: suspect that there is more than a grain of truth in that he is aiming at revenge over BPRG's fiasco. However, there is one point raised that is worthy of exploration and that relates to licence fees. Lets take three possible scenarios which I will call, in business-speak, pessimistic, optimistic and most likely.
Pessimistic scenario. The 200 expected ASDA machines are achieved, say 1000 in the US and overall 2000. Apply KBC Peel Hunt's calculations of 2.5p on the sp for 100 machines. That gives an sp of 50p. This should hold as volumes drop because licence fees run on and other products come on line.
Optimistic (so-called) scenario. The product is too successful for SEO's own good. They achieve, or are on track to achieve, 50% penetration, i.e. 25,000 machines. Competition come in heavily and are willing to forego licence fees. SEO have already stated that they will make admission difficult and they do that by waiving licence fees or drastically reducing them. They achieve 10,000 machines at the peak, but with much lower royalties. So they have a one-off 200m say. With new products coming on stream, what do we have. Perhaps enough to justify a price of 50p!
Most likely scenario. An overall volume of 5000 to 10000 machines. KBC Peel would say 1.25 to 2.50 on sp. Licence fees retained but reduce on volume Perhaps an sp of 1 plus whatever is achieved on other products. The best outcome!
Well, a bit of conjecture. But it would seem that SEO could be too successful for their own good. I'm getting way ahead of the game, of course. I am actually with the forecasts of driver and andysmith and am playing SEO long. But none of us know the actual scenario and need to keep on top of the developing scenario.
Eric
moneyplus
- 22 May 2005 17:27
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I was having a good day til I logged on to the tool!! sick in the head springs to mind--why waste so much time posting pessimistic rubbish. Nothing better to do or obsessed!!-- thank goodness we have some good common sense posts to balance. I'm happy with SEO and I'll decide when to take my money out!!
wilbs
- 22 May 2005 18:05
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Squelch him and never have to read another of the idiots posts again.
wilbs
A Ruthies Fund
- 22 May 2005 18:20
- 4561 of 27111
moneyplus
Agree with you, it's my money I'll decide.
I quite like constructive post which make one think/supply info/or are just good fun...but this obsessive "I'm only looking after you stuff is a bit too much.
I see your comments on some other threads...good luck.
Ruthie
Sequestor
- 22 May 2005 19:56
- 4562 of 27111
erm
its common knowledge that its "your/mine /their/our" money, no point in even mentioning it.
However it is also ours/yours`/ theirs` and even "mine " bb, its for expressing views, its even democratic that way, so do try not to be rude to those who don`t think a penny share will become a 1 because YOU think it will.
As this one never has been all the more reason to to be doubtfull.
SEE BELOW.
and if you think that vertical line is sustainable, well
g`luck to you!!
Sequestor
- 22 May 2005 19:58
- 4563 of 27111
jimmy b
- 22 May 2005 21:17
- 4565 of 27111
Sequestor , you seem like you think this is going to crash,, and i respect your view , but you did say earlier that you would buy at 24p to 26p , surely you wouldn't ..
tau
- 22 May 2005 21:43
- 4566 of 27111
always observe the axis scale.thanks pth
aldwickk
- 22 May 2005 21:44
- 4567 of 27111
Are we sure that Sequestor is not II.
bosley
- 22 May 2005 22:03
- 4568 of 27111
tau, what's the axis scale?
EWRobson
- 22 May 2005 22:34
- 4569 of 27111
Just been looking at the trades on Friday. Two way traffic so a reasonable outcome. The point I particularly noted though was that there were some 300 buys. I suspect only a small number of these were from visitors to this and other threads where an RNS on Monday was mentioned. Presumably most buyers have the US potential as a primary motivator. However, a timescale of this comingweek is probably not the expectation of most, otherwise there would have been a lemming-type rush into the share on Friday. The best course is to take the charts on a shorter timescale than that showing a meteoric climb, i.e. one showing a flag type movement in a relatively narrow trading scale. Tomorrow may well see either or both the 30p resistance level or a 27p support level tested.
Eric
tau
- 23 May 2005 01:56
- 4570 of 27111
Bosley, as eric mentions, the timescale across which the sp is shown diagrammatically. In the case of post 4562 this represents 9years across 9cm and will therefore, of course, show an almost vertical rise.
ramraid
- 23 May 2005 04:24
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so insiderinside, i take it that you bought at 21p and sold at 19p ??
insiderinside
- 23 May 2005 04:45
- 4572 of 27111
ramraid - no - I do not trade in shares I comment on - this avoids any accusations of manipulation - you do not manipulate what you cannot make money on - I simply detest pump and dump schemes and will quite willingly point out where pump and dump/ramping is going on - by putting a more realistic view across. There will be IMVHO no Walmart deal announced today - and any news released today can only be bad given whats been said in the last week to pump the price up.
insiderinside
- 23 May 2005 04:55
- 4573 of 27111
Scrutable (Lemming) has a vested interest - holders have a vested interest - tipsters once they tip the share - have a vested interest - brokers - well - say no more - the only people who can comment with no vested interest are non holders - they have no rose tinted specs on - so they should comment.
superrod
- 23 May 2005 07:00
- 4574 of 27111
ii
WHY do you persist in posting when you have no interest/position?
btw all, sequestor is NOT ii. he is a poster better known as oldolie on the other side. hes been banned for various reasons. that doesnt make him a bad investor or mean his posts arent relevant.
i must adnmit that his graph is highly misrepresentative of seo. it would look much better if the x axis was multiplied by a hundred.
back to waiting for the next rns